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Old 10-19-2004, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, so I'm finally going to settle down and buy something to calibrate my monitors. My PS gurus tell me to get a "spyder" and everyone has a different favorite, and when I look at the ones listed at B&H, I can't tell what the difference in price gets me. If anyone has way too much time on their hands, and wants to check out these seven items from Colorvision and Monaco, and give me some feedback, I'd be really appreciatative. Not only do I want to get the "right" one, I obviously don't want to pay more than I need to. FWIW, I do have one good CRT (primarily for Photoshop) and one LCD (not primarily for PS). Here's short links to the items on the B&H site:

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http://tinyurl.com/6ssc8
http://tinyurl.com/43mc9
http://tinyurl.com/6ygm5

(Colorvision)
http://tinyurl.com/5tv7a
http://tinyurl.com/4bt6x
http://tinyurl.com/42p9a
http://tinyurl.com/2af62

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Re: Need help choosing color calibrator
Old 10-19-2004, 03:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Andy don't know about each individual product, but check these forums and sombody over there can probably answer any questions.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/

http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

http://www.fredmiranda.com/

Hope this helps
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Re: Need help choosing color calibrator
Old 10-19-2004, 07:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A couple of links for you:
SmartShooter - Monitor profiling kit comparison
Dry Creek Photo - Monitor calibration review

FWIW, I bought the Monaco Optix XR to calibrate my Dell 2001FP LCD.
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Re: Need help choosing color calibrator
Old 10-19-2004, 08:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Andy,
I use the colorvision spyder with optical. It works great for me. I have a good crt, but due to some weird circumstances I end up doing alot of my ps work on my 17 inch laptop screen. The spyder does a decent job of profiling the laptop too. When I pull images off the laptop back to the pc with the crt 99% of they time they are right on the money. The ones that are off are usually just a little dark, but color looks really good. In all probability the spyder with photocal would probably work just fine for me the way I use it. Optical has some additional features that I have not had the time to play with yet. If you have any questions feel free to email or give me a ring. mark@hhphoto.net
812-549-7021.
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Re: Need help choosing color calibrator
Old 10-19-2004, 08:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I was told by a "Color Expert" that the spider was total crap because it's if-e that you will get a good one.. there quality control sucks... He told me to get a Monaco Optix XR and it works great...

thats my 2 cents
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before I ran across the Smartshooter site. http://www.shootsmarter.com/infocenter/wccvx.html We ran across the exact problems described there. these problems may or may not have been addressed with the new iteration but I believe I's go with the Optix next time.
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Old 10-19-2004, 12:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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How old is your monitor? The less expensive models are less accurate on older monitors.

If I had to choose a calibrator today, I'd recommend the Monaco Optix XR Pro. The older Monaco Optix (the $149 one) isn't as accurate.

The Colorvision Spyder has problems producing good profiles with some LCDs (unfortunately these were the LCDs I owned). The profiles made by it were too yellow. As a result the skintones and neutrals looked horrible.
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Re: Need help choosing color calibrator
Old 10-20-2004, 07:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have two monitors, a 3.5 year old Dell Trinitron 21" CRT and a new 17" Dell LCD. The 21" came with my old Dell computer, the LCD came with the new one, but I've reversed them because the new computer is faster, bigger, etc and designed for PS, which is where the Trinitron CRT should be. The LCD is fine for web surfing, email and all the business stuff. The new LCD looks great on the old computer with no modification of settings. The odd thing is the old CRT looked great with the old computer (and its video card) but immediately looked terrible (low contrast, not sharp, too bright) upon being attached to the new computer (even though the drivers on the new computer and video card do recognize the old monitor model). Even adjusting the monitor itself can't bring it back into being even close to useable for anything but image selection, much less actual editing and color correction. Any thoughts?

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Video Card?
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Andy

Check the specs on the video cards in the two machines and see if the new machine has updated drivers. Often the manufacturing process is set in advance and the load has outdated drivers. Go out and cruise over to both the Dell site and the video card manufacturer's site.

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Re: Video Card?
Old 10-21-2004, 01:09 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Exactly what I hate doing! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What doesn't make sense though is, wouldn't you think that even if the new computer had two or three-year-old drivers (for various monitors) that they would be the same, or even more recent drivers than those that came with the 3.5-year-old computer in the first place? I mean, the new system (the one that now has the old monitor) is WinXP recently from the factory, so by definition, shouldn't its drivers be more current than those that came with the old computer (which was Win2000 when it had this monitor attached)? I've since installed a new hard drive in it with XP, which is what is now running the new LCD perfectly. (Installed from the new machine's backup OS disk).

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