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Old 07-17-2004, 04:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,
I am getting my first studio lights and have decided on getting the alien bees system because of my tight budget. I will be using the alien bees for mostly glamour. My question is, will alien bees AB800 be enough for glamour photography or do I need to get the 1600?

here's the spec for the 800
true wattseconds 320
effective wattseconds 800
lumenseconds 14,000
power range 5 f-stops (full to 1/32)

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Old 07-17-2004, 06:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Actually, you may find the 400 is 'enough' for 95% of the jobs. I have two 800s and just bought a 400 because I rarely, if ever, use my 800s at full power in my studio. Unless your studio is pro-grade huge, the 400 or 800s should do you just fine.

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Old 07-17-2004, 08:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice image Joel.


For what it's worth my 1000ws strobes are rarely above 500 so 800s in anybody's line should be fine.

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Re: question for alien bees owners
Old 07-17-2004, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have 2 AB 800s, and to get f8 in my studio I crank them up about 1/4 of the way. They are incredibly powerful (in my limited experience).

At Rick Hughes lingerie photo intensive shoot thingy in February, I provided my 2 AB 800s for one of the shoot areas. About 15 - 20 different shooters used the ABs that day. I think the light quality of their images backs up the claims AB owners make.

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Re: question for alien bees owners
Old 07-17-2004, 11:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have 2 800's and I bought 2-400's for use as hair and background lights. I have yet to use my 800's at full power. I will be upgrading my 400's to 1600's shortly, but the only reason I am doing that is for use outdoors or when shooting something large in my studio like a car or f-16 fighter jet. The 800's should do you just fine. Did you guys know that Alien Bees will swap out your lights for a higher power? All you have to do is pay the difference in cost and give them $25 each for a new housing! These guys rule!
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Old 07-17-2004, 12:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks guys! so I have decided on the 800. Just found out that I can get a 10% discount on them because I am a student [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
 
 
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I woulld recommend going with the 800's as apposed to the 400's. For around $55 more for each unit you get the extra power if you ever need it.

Joel stated earlier that the 400's meet 95% of his requirements. What does he do the other 5% of the time when he doesn't have the needed power?

The 1600's are more than what most photographers will ever need and will cost $80 each more than the 800's. If you are going to be doing the big shoots then by all means get those.

I'm getting 4 of the 800's. The extra $220 is a good insurance policy to make sure that I have all the light I need.

You need to have sufficient equipment to meet all your needs if you are going to be doing this on a professional level.

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I thought hard and long befroe buying mine. I do mostly glamour photo. Ended up getting 3 800's, and 1 1600. So far I have never cranked up any of them past half way. I use the 1600 with my softbox, so I know I will always have enough.

Other than that I can't say enough about the quality, durability, and reliability. Enjoy them...

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Attack of the Alien Bees!
Old 07-22-2004, 06:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I too was torn with this question...In addition, I was trying to choose between strobes or hotlights...

I went with 2 B800s and 2 B1600s for their large softboxes (which, contrary to what many say, are very straightforward and easy to set up if you've set up a tent, like, EVER).

They are an excellent value, are durable enough to have made long trips across the country (even surviving sloppy and negligent airline baggage handlers), and just plain old work, all the time, every time.

After some conversation with one of PC Buff's electrical engineers, the Bees will also work perfectly behind a generator, with only a minor shunt inline.

The only nit that I have to pick with PC Buff is the method that they use to attach their boom to their main stand.

Welcome to the Hive! LOL


Portland model Leona, shot with 1 B1600 and 2 B800s.

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Re: Attack of the Alien Bees!
Old 07-22-2004, 07:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey Jon,
Thanks for you reply. I think I am pretty much set for the bees. Do I really need the 1600 to use with softbox?
 
 
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