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Old 06-29-2004, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey y'all!!

Need suggestions for a 1.8 to 2-ish lens that'll work with a Nikon D-70 (outdoor fashion and glam) in the up to several hundred range, and also a wildlife telephoto in the same price range.

Thanks!!!
 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 05:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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why that aperature range for outdoor fashion??? i personally would settle for a less-expensive small aperature short to long telefoto lens. but thats just my preference.

 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Why?

Because I've seen what Christian/Chung/Fish/Daniel/Marco/Andy can do with nearly non-existent DOF, and I LIKE it... that's why.!!!

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Seriously, I have a vision of a personal style I want to develop, and my research indicates I NEED a 1.8 to do it.

If I gotta use a PhotoShop Gaussian blur to get what I want one more time I'll throw up.

 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OK!!!!

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Old 06-29-2004, 09:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You will need a medium telephoto like a Nikkor 70-200 f/2.8 VR or 80-200 f/2.8 lens shot at 200mm f/2.8 to compress the background the way you want. I know I saw info about a 200mm prime at 2.0 but those are your only options for the fastest lenses from Nikkor. All these lenses are over $1000 and some closer to $1800.

There are a number of factors that go into reducing the DOF, not just the aperature. You have to take into consideration the distance from the background, the aperature, the focal length of the lens, etc. When all taken into consideration, the background will compresss to a total blur like you see in many of their shots.

Understand that some of the photos are you are looking at as have been modified, at times, in photoshop to achieve the desired effect. When done properly, you shouldn't notice it.

 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 09:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks Hackman! Exactly the info I needed... except for the obscene price, which I expected really... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Is this one of them? It's for sale for $819:

http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewit...ens&amount=.75

I'm open to less-expensive options with (argh) lower quality... as long as it fits on a dang Nikon D-70... and works!

Also not averse to a 1.4-2.0ish prime, and it can have a shorter focal length, doesn't have to double as my tele.
 
 
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That is one of them that I'm sure is being used. You can ask them directly as many are regular posters and would probably answer rather quickly.

 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 01:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Remember this.... most lenses are designed with their "sweet spot" around f5.6 to f8. That is where they are sharpest. If you look at the MTF charts, that is where the resolution and contrast curves meet. If you shoot such a lens wide open, you get a lower quality image.

The exception in the Nikkor "Big Glass." These lenses (200mm f2; 300mm f2; 300mm f2.8; 400mm f2.8; 400mm f3.5; etc) are designed optically to produce the sharpest images wide open. You actually get a less sharp image stopped down to f5.6 than wide open.

My alltime favorite studio lens is the 200mm f2.

If you really want shallow DOF, abandon digital bodies that have anything less than a full-frame sensor. You will never get a shallow DOF you want in studio with less than full-frame sensor (or larger format).
 
 
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Old 06-29-2004, 05:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Greetings! Have you considered Nikon's Defocus lenses in 105mm & 135mm? Both use 72mm filters and max. F stop is 2.
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Kurt, I like the Nikkor 85mm/1.8 for the type of work you are suggesting. It's available used from KEH.com for around $200-220 or so KEH new and used nikon lenses as for telephoto I recomend the Nikkor 180mm/2.8 wich is an excelent lens for around $260-300, make sure you get the AF version of this lens, I don't think they make it anymore...which is a shame.
I also use a 50mm/1.4 quite a bit with digital which can be had for around $250.

I suggest staying away from the 28-300 type lenses, they are all pretty much horrible. Now in the interests of new lenses, the office just got in a 300mm/4 AF-S lens that is pretty sweet, but it costs about $900. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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