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Film Question: Cross-processing
Old 06-03-2004, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This weekend I will photographing models, hot rods, custom motorcycles, and other such fun at The Rock and Roll Monster Bash. I want to shoot some E6 to cross-process and need some pointers from you film veterans.

What film have you had the most success with cross processing?

What technical details should I be aware of?

My first attempt at cross processing was passable, but didn't give me the WOW I was hoping for.
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Re: Film Question: Cross-processing
Old 06-03-2004, 10:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is going back in history... but I x-processed Kodak Ektachrome 100 or 200. You can go both ways -- C-41 to E-6 and E-6 to C-41. The one recommendation is exposure. Overexpose the image a bit. I think the 200 worked out better for that reason. Gives you more ISO to work with. I think I did the 200 rated at 100.

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slides in c41
Old 06-03-2004, 01:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A general guideline for shooting transparency film then processing in C41 chemistry is to overexpose the film by about two stops (e.g. shoot 100-speed film at 25) and develop normally (in the "wrong" chemistry). Depending on the film, lighting, and specific effect, you'll need to fine tune exposures, but that should put you in the ballpark.

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I use high color saturation films such as Fujicrome Velvia 100 and Velvia 50. If this is going to be outdoors use a polorizing filter. The previous advice on overexposure is good depending on the contrast in the subject matter.
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Agreed.... that's the same rule I have followed...which I learned from another photographer... also, be aware of the highlights in the pictures... so that not a lot of area is washed out with little detail in the end.. Do a "snip" test....which is what I refer to it as...where you cut a sample from the first few frames off of one of the rolls that you will be processing....that were all from the same lighting...etc... and have that processed...if that one is fine, then the rest should be too.....if they look flat....or too contrasty, have the lab make the appropiate adjustments for processing so that your whole job isn't yucky looking... CP'ing for me isn't an exacxt science....I would always do it for "fun".......say I'd shoot an extra roll of film for the intentional reason for CP.. the rest of the pictures were exposed correctly and E-6'ed just to make sure I had something from the shoot to work with..

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Hope these help a bit
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1. I have used Provia 400F and Ektachrome 200G in cross prossesd applications. Both will come out super contrast. And I find the look very edgy. You need a higher ISO film to start - reason why below. I have tried using Porta negative film and cross processing it to make slides, but the results weren't as spectacular as slide crossed processed to negatives.

2. You should shoot the film 1 to 2 stops overexposed in .3 stops increments to start to see what effects you like. The more you overexpose the more extreme the images become. Also use the same lab. Bottom line - same film, same lab, same exposure, same development time - same results. This holds true with any film, but even more so with cross processed film.

Here is a link with some very good general info:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...html?tw=design

And this link has info on the results from various types of film:
http://www.photoquack.de/tutorials/crosstext.htm

I'd keep trying. Also experiment with over developing when you the film to the lab.

Hope this helps a bit. I'll scan an example in, when I finish this whole colour management/calibration thing of my setup.

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