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Old 03-22-2004, 11:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Although I like this pose I just can't seem to make the upper arm work in the images. If she moves her elbow more to the left it goes out of frame but her gloved hand is an eerie shadow dividing the frame. What can be done?

Other comments on the overall images are also welcome.

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Old 03-22-2004, 01:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Rick,

Because cutting off the other arm in a shot like this is going to make the other arm not balanced or compositional correct. The lighting is also dim just making an object that is distracting in the image. You got a nice profile shot without the hand/arm placement. Perhaps if you want something done with this, then a 3/4 pose showing the other arm and composition an S pattern with the arms might play off better. You might raise the back arm and elbow up a little to surround the head vs having it grow out of the back of head. Like have some space of background seperating the head and the arm placement. How about raise the arm up and have the model lean to the right of the image or model forward to dip down a little might make a better composition as well. What if she brought her other hand up to her cheek?? That might balance better to and make it work for you.....

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Old 03-22-2004, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I couldn't give any advice better than JT's, however I just had to comment because I believe this is the first I have seen your face. Finally got an avitar huh?
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Thanks JT
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I think all your suggestions are right on the money and is something I'll try during my shoot tomorrow. Thanks again.

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Yeah, it's something I've been meaning to put up for awhile. I didn't have a decent one until last friday when Toria finally got me in front of the camera. She brought her daughter over for some glamour shots and a few lessons on lighting for herself when she talked me into posing.

Now you can see why I'm always behind the camera.

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Old 03-26-2004, 02:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd try lowering the left arm out of the pic completely and raising the right one (presumably also gloved) vertically into the shot in front of her.
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Rick, How about both arms out in front of her, one hand on top of the other on the back ground, but not so high that it precludes her over the shoulder glance? Think it would give even better separation, so long as it did'nt end up looking too much like "assume the position". George
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But not quite high enough and the other arm got amputated.

Thanks for your input and it's something I'll try on tomorrows shoot.
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Something like this...
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It's something we tried but was unflattering as you can see. Although the arm wasn't as high as you suggested, the bulge at the elbow increased as she brought her arm higher and closer. The other hand was a little to high as well.

I'll try this again tomorrow but have the model actually place her head against her hands with a slight tilt, use an over the shoulder glance and crop it a little tighter to see how that'll work out.

Just gotta keep pluggin' away at it until it falls into place.

Keep your head down brother.

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Have her put her weight on her left side. Lift her body so that it is about 30 degrees from the parallel of the floor. Then she will minimize her chest dimension and she will take weight off the right arm so it will slim that arm. Remember what you and I may say is okat will drive a woman to distraction if she thinks you made her look heavier than she really is.

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