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hey pros, nevermind. I'll get help elsewhere
Old 04-09-2009, 03:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 06:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What kind of PRO photographer?
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 07:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What kind of PRO photographer?
lol well i can best explain it as " A KNOW IT ALL" kind of photographer. But please, whats your critique? was i way off? Was i spot on? what advise would you give on this photo to improve it?
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 07:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Generally a good photo. I would deal with the stray hairs especially the one running across her right eye. I'm not a big fan of tattoos and find the one peeking in on the right a bit distracting. I might do a very light vignette to tone down the outer edges and help focus the image more on her face.

Is that the kind of critique you were looking for?

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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 08:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think I would iron my background next time. The choice of posing props should be reconsidered. I think that chair is a little distracting. Highlights may be a little hot, but that may just be my monitor.
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
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OKAY, If someone who says they are a PRO photographer, presented you this pic, and says there isnt a thing wrong with it, what would you say to them about this pic please??
This pic, to me, the nose's shadow is to harsh, it gives a hook type look to it. and it's hard to tell on the right side of the pic where her nose and side of her nose seperate. and finally the nose tip is to shiney. Is that a fair and accurate critique in your eyes? Or am i out of my mind and wrong on it all? Please let me know?

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From reading your question, I assume this is not something you shot, but is something by another photographer that you want others to critique.
I am not sure what your reason would be, other than to maybe wave this under the photographer's nose and let him know he is not a pro and you can prove it.
If I am misreading or misinterpreting, I apologize. If I am correct, I do not believe this is a "professional" approach for obtaining critiques on anther photographer's work.
If it is your work, that is another matter, and I would be happy to give my thoughts.
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 09:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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From reading your question, I assume this is not something you shot, but is something by another photographer that you want others to critique.
I am not sure what your reason would be, other than to maybe wave this under the photographer's nose and let him know he is not a pro and you can prove it.
If I am misreading or misinterpreting, I apologize. If I am correct, I do not believe this is a "professional" approach for obtaining critiques on anther photographer's work.
If it is your work, that is another matter, and I would be happy to give my thoughts.
no, what I am asking is, was my critique a fare and accurate critique of the photo, and whats your critique if different than mine. I am not going to throw them in his face etc. I just want to know if I am seeing things that aren't there. Am I being to critical because I have a big nose?
When i gave my critique i was accused of not critiqueing the photo but instead, calling the model a hook nose. Then another person piped up and said there was nothing wrong with it at all.

So now I am second guessing myself and wondering was I wrong or right.

But to me, the shadow under the nose does in fact give her nose, a hook shape,( am I wrong? Am I making it up?) which i believe is easily corrected by just something to reflect a small amount of light into that area, making the shadow not so harsh and giving some detail to the dark area etc.
the brighter part of her nose(the tip and right side as we view it), looks odd shaped because there is no seperation from her nose and side of her nose. And finally the hot spot on the tip of her nose. It's shiney and I pointed that out also.
so was i right? Was I wrong? whats your take on it?
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Re: hey pros, your helps needed here please?
Old 04-09-2009, 11:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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no, what I am asking is, was my critique a fare and accurate critique of the photo, and whats your critique if different than mine. I am not going to throw them in his face etc. I just want to know if I am seeing things that aren't there. Am I being to critical because I have a big nose?
When i gave my critique i was accused of not critiqueing the photo but instead, calling the model a hook nose. Then another person piped up and said there was nothing wrong with it at all.

So now I am second guessing myself and wondering was I wrong or right.

But to me, the shadow under the nose does in fact give her nose, a hook shape,( am I wrong? Am I making it up?) which i believe is easily corrected by just something to reflect a small amount of light into that area, making the shadow not so harsh and giving some detail to the dark area etc.
the brighter part of her nose(the tip and right side as we view it), looks odd shaped because there is no seperation from her nose and side of her nose. And finally the hot spot on the tip of her nose. It's shiney and I pointed that out also.
so was i right? Was I wrong? whats your take on it?
Not to be disrespectful but what does it matter if your critique was fair and accurate? It is your critique and your opinion as you see it and I have a feeling that by your post you are seeking validation of your opinions of the image.

People photograph in styles that suit them and the only opinions that truly matter are of the photographer, the model, and the client if there is one.

The purpose of Garage Glamour is for us as a community to help each other and not to judge the work of third parties. Had the photographer wanted this (or any) other photos critiques they could have posted it for themselves provided they are a member of Garage Glamour.
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Re: hey pros, nevermind. I'll get help elsewhere
Old 04-09-2009, 12:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Why not post one of your own images, if you want to actually learn?

All I am saying is, in my opinon, to take another photographer's work and ask for a critique is not a professional thing to do.

What if some photographer took one of your images and posted it here and asked for critiques, how would that make you feel?
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Newbie,

Let me help you out here. First, printed words will always sound harsher than spoken words, don't take things so personal. Second, never post someone else's image without their permission or for critique. Third, lose the "screw it" attitude. That doesn't help anyone, not you nor this community and shows lack of professionalism.

Now, solution: One, post an image of yours for critique, but be prepared to not agree, that's ok, photography is subjective. Two, if you want to see how good your critiques pair up, then critique an image on a post here and see how others critique it too. You can learn a lot from that. Always critique constructive, not destructive. Three, welcome to the Internet forums, sometimes they can "feel" brutal, again, don't take it personally.

I hope that helps and have patience my friend it will go a long ways. Thanks, rg sends!
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