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Old 03-02-2008, 08:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here are a few shots from a resent shoot with Allison:

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C&C appreciated.
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Re: Allison
Old 03-02-2008, 06:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm in a one critique mood right now. Which one do you most want to get some C & C on?
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Re: Allison
Old 03-02-2008, 09:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm in a one critique mood right now. Which one do you most want to get some C & C on?
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5 or 6, take your pick.
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Re: Allison
Old 03-03-2008, 12:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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More a comment than anything...

When a model has hair the "closes in" on her face, her hair can produce unflattering shadows if it gets between the light sources and her face.

A couple of these shots show such shadows. From the catch lights. it looks like you might have used a reflector. I think I would have tried a second light and a reflector horizontally in front of her to try to fill the shadows.

The images where her hair is back away from her face are nice. I don't think she'll like # 5 very much.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think she'll like # 5 very much.
#5 was her top pick from the shoot . I prefer the high key shots, she liked the dark and grungy stuff. Go figure.
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Re: Allison
Old 03-03-2008, 09:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have to agree, I didn't find #5 that appealing either. But then if the model is paying, its her money, and she gets to choose. But I think the black top has very little detail and tends to flatten out the bust line. I don't care for the conflicting background elements that run through the head. The arm on the left seems to just be hanging there and would be better on the hip or placed rather than dangling. The shot has a nice rule of thirds composition. I don't care for the expression --- but I suppose that's just the thing that grabbed the model's attention.

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Re: Allison
Old 03-03-2008, 11:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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But I think the black top has very little detail and tends to flatten out the bust line. I don't care for the conflicting background elements that run through the head. The arm on the left seems to just be hanging there and would be better on the hip or placed rather than dangling. The shot has a nice rule of thirds composition.
These are all things that only a photographer and/or photo editor would care greatly about.

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I don't care for the expression --- but I suppose that's just the thing that grabbed the model's attention.
Because she isn't a photographer or photo editor... she's a normal person.

Not every young, pretty girl wants to portrayed as sweetness and light all of the time, hence the appeal of Buffy Summers vs. Nancy Drew amongst that demographic. As someone (whose name escapes me for the moment) said: "Emotion trumps craft every time".
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Re: Allison
Old 03-03-2008, 11:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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These are all things that only a photographer and/or photo editor would care greatly about.



Because she isn't a photographer or photo editor... she's a normal person.

Not every young, pretty girl wants to portrayed as sweetness and light all of the time, hence the appeal of Buffy Summers vs. Nancy Drew amongst that demographic. As someone (whose name escapes me for the moment) said: "Emotion trumps craft every time".
The original poster is a photographer and he asked for C & C. That is what I tried to provide. If we are selling our photos, then we let the customer decide what they like. But if we are interested in making our photos better in our own eyes, then we need to have a good critical sense of what works and doesn't --- for us.

But ultimately, if someone hires a photographer to shoot photos for a specific purpose, then we have an obligation to steer them towards high quality photos, especially if they intend to use them commercially. I've had situations in my career where the customer didn't choose what I thought was the best solution to a problem and later paid for it when the solution they chose did not work out. When they changed to the solution I suggested, it did work out. So if a customer hires a pro to do a job, should they not put some trust in the pro?

Oh well, food for thought!

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Re: Allison
Old 03-03-2008, 12:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'll pop a comment on this.

#6 has a perfect reflection of your soft box. At least that is what it looks like. I know, it is hard to get the lighting set up without at times. That's my 2 cents.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'll pop a comment on this.

#6 has a perfect reflection of your soft box. At least that is what it looks like. I know, it is hard to get the lighting set up without at times. That's my 2 cents.
Actually most better photos have very obvious catchlights if they include the eyes. Some pros actually make it part of their style to include well defined catchlights of the lighting. If the eyes show, you almost always want a catchlight to add sparkle to the eyes.


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