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Laura from Sunday
Old 09-18-2007, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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She came to let me practice High-Key. Did I learn anything???




I think she's kinda cute for 40..
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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 09-18-2007, 09:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Perhaps you might be confusing a bright white background with 'high key' photography? Traditional high key emphasizes the tones on the right side of the histogram in the entire image as well as low contrast overall. The subject in this image has strong contrast in both wardrobe and skin tones.

If you're just shooting for a smooth pure white background, you have done that well.

My attempt at a more traditional 'high key' image:

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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 09-19-2007, 10:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Bob,

It looks good, but I still see some flare around the model which is usually caused by too much light on the background, or the model too close to the background. Adding black panels just out of frame will also help reduce some of this flare.
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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 09-19-2007, 08:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comments!!!
I was shooting for high key but the photo said pin-up when I looked at it.
great idea about the black flags, I'll try that.

she bought a 16x20 for her husband so I guess whatever I did was at the very least "OK".

srwatters:
I like your "high-key" shot but I'm curious did you shoot it that way or do it in post? If you shot it that way can I ask how??
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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 10-07-2007, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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she bought a 16x20 for her husband so I guess whatever I did was at the very least "OK".
Don't ever confuse the clients tastes with GOOD lol but you can consider your shoot successful no matter what you had planned if they buy something

I shoot FOR my client and not for other photographers and so i feel successful if they enjoy the shoot and have a hard time deciding which images to choose from the shoot. But they often choose a shot that is amongst the biggest mistakes i make that day

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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 10-07-2007, 08:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Bob, I think the term "high key" sometimes means slightly different things to people. To me, it means that an image is emphasizing white to grey tones while preserving the detail.

Scott's shot is a a beautiful example of high key work -- but if you were to look at a histogram, his image is shifted less to the right than your own. That's because your shot has a greater percentage of the image in pure white (the background). However, his model's skin is overexposed (since the hair, eyes and clothes are not overexposed, the image has had post processing work done to it) whereas yours is correctly exposed or perhaps slightly under.

You can play with your image in PS to get a similar overexposed look by:

1) making a curves adjustment (lift the curve)
2) copy the image into a new layer
3) threshold the new image (use the slider to taste...idea is to have just the darkest areas be black)
4) change the mode on this layer to screen

You'll end up with something like this:



(I added a shadow for depth, but that's entirely taste. I just didn't like the floating in nothingness look. So I added a shadow.)

Edit: Forgot to add that the adjustments above are just to give you an idea how your shot might look at a different output. I was working with the image you posted, so there are noise issues -- but if you modify the originals your results should be better.
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Based on today's lesson [grin] My shot is not high key, Mr Waters shot, however is closer to what I would call high-key than my shot.

I like chuck's version even less because of the details that were lost. Once again proving my image isn't high-key, and probably shouldn't be.

A shadow is not a bad idea, but if I did it over I would put a piece of furniture or something in the background to give the room depth. (thinking pin up)

As always, thanks for your comments, from me and from those who are learning from my mistakes... [smile]
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Re: Laura from Sunday
Old 10-07-2007, 10:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I didn't like it either! However no detail is lost -- the image is pushed, but not into white. There's probably more visible detail in the soles of her boots and in the shadow under her butt.
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