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Old 06-12-2007, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old Korean Ballet from the Seattle Folk Fest. Sony Alpha originally shot in RAW 70-200mm Maxxum lens at 135mm 4.5f at 1/800 ISO 400. The stage is a little cluttered, there is no back stage. There were some colored lights to deal with as well. The big white thing in the back was a sponsor logo, I cloned that out maybe shouldn't have. The colors don't seem quite as rich once I uploaded it, maybe it's my monitor or maybe I don't need to upload in jpg? She didn't blink, it's part of the routine. All the usual novice excuses aside, what could I have done to make this better? Focus doesn't seem as sharp as the original either. Thanks, your critiques have been most helpful even before this first post.

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Old 06-12-2007, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As a portrait, there's probably not much you can do. As a "live" shot (editorial/photojournalism) the biggest problem is the clutter. It looks more like a rock concert with a misplaced dancer.

The colors are striking and the lines rather well-defined, so it may not be too difficult to extract her out and paste her into a different background. (I think that would be a big improvement.) The focus issue may be motion blur rather that a focus problem, but you'd know better by the original. At 1/800 and 135mm, I wouldn't expect that unless she was moving really fast. It appears as though her hand is sharper than her face, so your focus point may be off. I'd see if it's sharper as a higher quality JPG.

The colors look good on my laptop and I'd guess that the exposure is correct. There's even some detail in the white scarf which would normally end up blown out, but in this case it's not. I'd say, aside from the stage clutter, you did the best you could with a difficult shot.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you're finding a colour difference between your original file and your "saved for web" jpeg, is it possible that you were working in adobeRGB and haven't converted to srgb before saving for web? This will make a huge difference in how your web image looks.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're finding a colour difference between your original file and your "saved for web" jpeg, is it possible that you were working in adobeRGB and haven't converted to srgb before saving for web? This will make a huge difference in how your web image looks.

I believe you are both correct. I don't believe now that I used the higher quality jpeg and I probably am set for the wrong color management. I have been trying to work with that along with everything else. Seriously considering a spyder but with a normal 17" lcd is it worth it. I pulled out the print too because of the focus and it is much sharper. Her face is in good focus, I can almost count her lashes. I have a similar photo of a court lady in waiting that I might offer up once I do my adjustments.

Thank you both for your kind attentions and constructive remarks. It's something I really need.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I believe you are both correct. I don't believe now that I used the higher quality jpeg and I probably am set for the wrong color management. I have been trying to work with that along with everything else. Seriously considering a spyder but with a normal 17" lcd is it worth it. I pulled out the print too because of the focus and it is much sharper. Her face is in good focus, I can almost count her lashes. I have a similar photo of a court lady in waiting that I might offer up once I do my adjustments.

Thank you both for your kind attentions and constructive remarks. It's something I really need.
The Spyder's don't work all that well and don't seem to be very consistent. I generally have had the best luck with the Eye-One Display 2 calibration system. The Eye-One works very well on my LCD screens (3 of them).

If you load the image into photoshop in Adobe RGB which many cameras default to, and then do a Save for web, you'll always get the color difference. The trick is often to change the color space to sRGB right before doing the Save for Web. Here is an example of the color difference people often see:



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