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Old 10-08-2006, 02:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Couple images for your critique. Still working on my b/w conversions. Appreciate your thoughts on these.





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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-08-2006, 03:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey,

I love B & W but, here I would say if the conversion was different because on my monitor it is really dark. (It may be me because I used Adobe Gamma and not a color monitor software as of yet $$$) I would have to say I like the color between these two images you have. The color image looks soft to me but, it could be the was you intended it to be.

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-08-2006, 04:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I prefer the B&W, however I think you need to work on the contrast a bit.
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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-08-2006, 06:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Still learning how to get the conversions right. Really didnt like how just using the desaturate looked so I tried playing with the channel mixer. Mental note.... lots of buttons and sliders on that window that makes it easy to mess things up Anyone use the channel mixer? Looking for a starting place to use it. Appreciate the comments folks.

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-08-2006, 09:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey Dean,
IMO, the black and white is a stronger image, but I am kind of biased though. But the reasons I say that in this case is because there is something lacking in the color, not much pop to it, but with the b&w, there is something there. But, that's just me.

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-08-2006, 10:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks Isaiah. Kinda biased myself in that I prefer b/w images. Leaves a bit more to the imagination.

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-09-2006, 12:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Dean I really like your soft color version here, but alas I'm here to learn glamour too, so take my comments for the 2 cents they're worth.

I have a tool that I feel is indespensible for creating b&w images and it works very much the way some of the PS channel mixer techniques do, but without the hassle.

Go here;
http://www.optikvervelabs.com/

Download the free "Virtual Photographer" plug in to use with Photoshop and play with the settings.

The steps are;

1. Go to presets in Virtual Photographer and select B&W from the drop down
menu
2. On the right, select red filter or green filter, or use the slider to create a custom effect. This is where, the filters are similar to channels.
3. Click on the effect button to add effects like soft focus, etc.


Good luck.

Hope you find it usefull.

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Old 10-09-2006, 12:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I too like the B&W...

and also here to learn posing and such...that plugin is really easy and i love being able to scroll through the presets and see what works...

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-09-2006, 09:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks, just downloaded it. Question, seems it only works with jpeg files. Anyway to have it active when working with RAW or Photoshop files? Noticed that alot of the filters are not available unless you are working with a jpeg file.

Looks to be a pretty cool plug in.

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Re: Color or B/W?
Old 10-10-2006, 01:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey Julian, thats exactly why I like it too, way easy to see what looks the best without a lot of fiddling.

Dean, I'm using CS2 and I believe it works with raw files, but let me clarify that comment because I may not understand CS2 completely.

When I open a raw file (Nikon), there is a an initial dialog box to the right that lets you adjust wb, color, contrast, exposure, shadows, brightness and sharpness, etc. Once I select the appropriate setting I then click on "Open" and the file is then sent to photoshop from bridge? right? Anyhow, at this point my image on the top of the screen is still identified as *.nef and the filter works on it at this point. This is still a raw file at this point, no?

Short answer is I think it works on raw files, because on my screen it shows *.nef and I can apply all the filters at that time.

Sorry, for the complicated reply but Photoshop is my weakest link in my skill set.

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PS my favorite is the b&w anvil effect.
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