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First Glamour image with the Hensel Beauty Dish...
Old 03-09-2006, 12:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Many more to come, but this shot only used the dish with a 20* grid.

Let me know what you think.

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Old 03-09-2006, 01:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I like the image, except for the really strong highlights on her face. Seem just a tad over exposed.

Beautiful girl.

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Re: First Glamour image with the Hensel Beauty Dish...
Old 03-09-2006, 01:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you. That's actually what I was going for with the grid. The highlights are not blown at all, but it is an edgier look. We also had a great makeup artist for the day, and the model had flawless skin, I think that all contributed. I'll play with it though and see if changing it around makes it look better.

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Old 03-09-2006, 01:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My theory on lighting models is that the viewer should not think about how the model was lighted when he or she sees your subject. The only clues can be in the catch lights in the eyes. When we go to major studio movies, we never, ever, think about the dozens of lights being used.

With that being said, all the bright highlights all over your models body and face does not make her look her best.

The expression is unusual, the legs seem out of proposion to about 50% of her height and the placement of her hands looks like she is stating to stand up.

Her legs turned to the side would show them off in a more flattering way.

As you can tell I do not like this image except the nice location you have for her.

Please do not take my views personal. You are in the critique forum and if everybody here told you all your work is fantastice you would not think about light and this place would be a big bore. I feel like Simon.

Still a student myself,

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Old 03-09-2006, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Matt,
Plese feel free to look over my images and give your opinions. That is how we all learn.

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Old 03-09-2006, 01:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh don't worry about it, I'm a big boy with thick skin.

My views on lighting are probably different from yours in a variety of ways. I've actually gaffed for a few movies and sometimes they're lit rather plainly and sometimes it's ALL about the lighting, although I agree it should contribute to mood, unless it is going for another artistic purpose.

For the beginning of the shoot we did a lot of standard fashion portraiture and I lit her (I think) in a manner you would like. But for this part I wanted to play and experiment. I also added an umbrella with a blue gel in this same setup for a moonlight look, just playing around trying to do something that isn't so boring. I was hoping for something a little more artistic here, but perhaps I didn't succeed. But hey, there's always next time!

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I've done NOTHING to this file yet, but perhaps you like the lighting here a tad better?

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I'm working on a version of the 1st one with MUCH softer highlights. I'll repost tomorrow and see what you guys think. I should know better than to try and work on an image quick to post, the highlights ARE over the top (thank you guys) and that occurred mostly during my raw conversion (still getting used to Nikon Capture).

I think this is a better raw conversion:



When I'm done doing post on it, I'll post the final and see what you think. I just thought it was neat to try and use the Beauty Dish as a more specular light source...

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I'm glad you don't have a big ego and try to change another man's opinion...I respect that. Yes, I like it and another theory, when I am shooting for a model's portfolio...it is my job to make her look her best. It's not about me, it's all about her. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (I do TFP)

Nice portrait.

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I like this image as it was originally posted but agree the highlights are a bit excessive or blown in the face. The second example shot you provided is a bit better but it lacks the contrast and some of the emotion of the first.

A softer look may be more appropriate but I disagree that the lighting or the pose is unattractive. I think you got what you were going for and appreciate that not following the normal boring route will create an image that is no longer boring, but instead will create dramatic interesting images.

Keep experimenting and keep posting – the critiques will arrive and the occasional Kudos but more importantly you will earn a unique style all your own that will not be safe or boring any longer. Keep it up.






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