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Old 02-15-2006, 01:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Working out some of the bugs in my RAW conversion to B&W, and would like your opinions and suggestions for improvements on this image. Of course, your general comments are welcomed as well!

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Old 02-15-2006, 02:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Norman,

I really like this picture. The only thing I might suggest is to lighten up her eye sockets a bit, and remove the blood vessels in the whites of her eyes.

Thanks for posting it.

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I\'m not sure. . .
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I understand whats going on here. I hope you are not converting the original RAW image directly to B&W. Converting a copy might be alright but even then I don't understand what is accomplished that way when using PS offers so much better control.
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Carlos:

I discovered that shooting B&W in camera seems to just set the saturation for JPEG and Previews to 0, but when I open a B&W RAW into PS, it shows up in color [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]. As you point out, we have more options for conversion in PS, but sometimes I just want the result in camera to be ready to go with minimal handling, in which case I'll set the camera to B&W, shooting RAW+JPG. I can show and deliver the B&W JPG in the field (think Rodeo Games and Family Sports) and still have the RAW file to work on for enlargements if any are ordered.

This picture was shot in color. Sat set to 0. Then an Action I've been working on (based on steps used in several portrait actions I've seen - I'll post it one of these days when I get it tweaked up) is applied to get a result.

As for my RAW files... they are kept or deleted... processed images are stored in PS, TIFF or JPG (depending on destination and usually more than one of each) and the original RAW Files are archived to CD. Future modification done to the PSD files, or pull the original out and start over if needed.

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks Josh!

Sharing of images and ideas has taught me more in six months than I could have learned alone in years!

I love this place!

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You're welcome Norman.
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I discovered that shooting B&W in camera seems to just set the saturation for JPEG and Previews to 0, but when I open a B&W RAW into PS, it shows up in color . As you point out, we have more options for conversion in PS, but sometimes I just want the result in camera to be ready to go with minimal handling, in which case I'll set the camera to B&W, shooting RAW+JPG. I can show and deliver the B&W JPG in the field (think Rodeo Games and Family Sports) and still have the RAW file to work on for enlargements if any are ordered.

This picture was shot in color. Sat set to 0. Then an Action I've been working on (based on steps used in several portrait actions I've seen - I'll post it one of these days when I get it tweaked up) is applied to get a result.

As for my RAW files... they are kept or deleted... processed images are stored in PS, TIFF or JPG (depending on destination and usually more than one of each) and the original RAW Files are archived to CD. Future modification done to the PSD files, or pull the original out and start over if needed.


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Norman,

You can get a little more control with the black and white processing by not setting the SAT to 0 in the RAW converter. Bring in the color image into PS. Then use your channel mixer to convert it to B&W. Make sure you clik the Monochrome checkbox. Then you can adjust each individual color channel. This will give you more control on the look of the image.

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... to do more camera RAW experiments.


*sigh*

OH... great shot btw.
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