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Old 08-12-2005, 09:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Girls and guns -- a theme I love.





Note: a little touch up on the second model's back. I didn't catch the small roll of skin on her back when I took the shot; I blurred it out.

Both shot with a Minolta X-700, using (IIRC) an 85mm lens and C-41 black and white film. The Ruger Super Redhawk (.44 magnum) is mine.

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Old 08-12-2005, 09:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Images looks a little muddy to me, but it could just be my monitor.

I agree this is a great theme. I'm planning on incorporating it into my next two shoots. I did it my last shoot with the result below.

I'll be interested to see if you get a predicted response.

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I agree grils and guns go great together.

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Poor treatment on both themes.
Models look uncomfortable (they seem more preocupied with convering their breast than on the posing), barrel is cut off on the gun on both pics, exposure is questionable and on top of that I am a gun control fan.
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Poor treatment on both themes.
Models look uncomfortable (they seem more preocupied with convering their breast than on the posing), barrel is cut off on the gun on both pics, exposure is questionable and on top of that I am a gun control fan.
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P.S.: I make these comments at my own risk (since I know you own a .44 Magnum)

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Thanks for the critique. I'll definately improve on the next set I do. I'll be more careful with the composition, and I'll double check the exposure.

As for the posing, that's something I really need to work on. Any suggestions, other than the obvious (more practice) ?

re: gun control -- First rule: make sure the firearm is unloaded before you hand it to the model ;-)

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Old 08-12-2005, 11:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I like the NRA trained models. Notice the correct placement of the trigger finger, since she's not aiming at the enemy spy...

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Old 08-12-2005, 11:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This was the comment I was expecting. When I was shooting Shelli, I told her if she put her finger on the trigger someone would comment on it on GG.

Personally I don't think it really matters if the gun is empty. I know always treat it like it is loaded, but if you want to take a picture of someone aiming a gun at the camera with intent, they should have their finger on the trigger.

Reminds me I promised to take Shelli - who had never even held a gun before these pictures - I'd take her to the range.
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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... I still got my Minolta X-700's... they rule [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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Build rapport with the model. A relaxed atmosphere. Sometimes it is better to take a great picture with clothes on than taking a 'bad nude' because of the model being uncomfortable with the situation. There should be full trust between model and photographer, and I don't mean just trust in terms of respect also trust in terms of the quality of work being produced.
Make sure that before you ask for someone to take their clothes off in front of your camera that you can guarantee that the results will be well worth it.
I do think you are on the right track. Maybe calling the same models back and trying again will give you the results you are looking for.
I think in this case you need to define the center of attention. Is the gun there as the main subject or to contribute to the message, maing the model the main character.
Just my humble opinion.
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I have to laugh, because when I first gave a shotgun to this model, she was waving it around crazily and going "bang bang" like it was a toy. It took a while to settle her down and indeed she has gotten some firearms training.

Here's something I made up for her boyfriend, who keeps it on his desk at work.

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