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Old 07-09-2005, 07:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A few images from last weekend...





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Old 07-09-2005, 07:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Alovely lady. The ones of her against the black backdrop makes her hair disappear. Add a hair light to her hair to seperate her from the background and the photo will look better.

The white backdrop photo looks good.
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Old 07-09-2005, 07:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice model.

Like the lighting in #2. Think you need to seperate the model from the background in #1 &#3. However, you did a great job with the exposure.....held the detail/seperation of the grays and blacks in the skirt.









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Old 07-09-2005, 08:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comment.

I suspect that some of the perceived lack of separation may be two things: monitor issues and visual acuity. On my monitor (calibrated) with my eyes there is separation and subtle detail in the hair on #1. I have always had issues with printing a tad too dark because I seem to be sensitive to very subtle shifts in low end tones. Some day maybe I'll figure out how to compensate.

#3 a bit less so as background light died and I had to recover image as best I could. It took quite a bit of work to get it where it is.
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Old 07-09-2005, 09:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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background light died, fixed the background as best you could, I don't mean this in any maliscious way, but it shows in the images with the black. Shots look great but the background recovery project is the first thing I can see


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Old 07-09-2005, 09:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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No offense taken. I am not sure how to address that issue but would really like to find out how to deal with it. In spite of calibration monitors still seem to have differences that can be pretty dramatic. I have 2 monitors both calibrated with the same hardware/software and one shows slightly more detail than the other. There is no visible evidence of the editing on either of my monitors so I'm not sure how to fix problems where others see separation that I do not. I'm open to suggestions.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Once again no offense but, it looks like you used paintbucket in Photoshop to black out the white background that was already there. JMHO.

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Old 07-09-2005, 07:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No offense taken, but as stated before there are no edits visible on two hardware calibrated monitors that I have checked these images on or on prints from calibrted printers. I can't fix what I can't see. What would be useful to know is are those of you who see edits using monitors that were/are color calibrated and was it with software or software/hardware. btw, there never was a white background.
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I looked at the images posted with three of my monitors here at home, Roland. Two are connected to PCs and one to Mac. All were calibrated at the end of last month with Monaco OPTIX XR. I do my calibration updates monthly and created the image below with my most recent setting (just so you have a point of reference here).

As noted by the others, on all three screens, the backgrounds of the images look heavily edited.

I'm not precisely sure what you mean when you mention "there are no edits visible," but surmise you are saying that you did adjust the background but that it is not looking bad on either of your monitors. If that's the case, it does show up as seriously altered on mine and distracts from the images' overall impact.

While I'm not sure if the adjustment were made with the Paintbucket Tool or a heavy hand on the left slider in Level or what, the overall effect looks overdone from my side of the screen.

There's also an odd blue/purple edging on two of the images I notice and wonder if you were using a strobe with a gel to the image left of the model.

My take on it anyway, hope this helps.

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Old 07-09-2005, 11:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Dave, that gives me a bit more info to work with. Yes you are correct the images appear smoothly blended on my monitors and the prints look fine as well.

It's a bit annoying that calibrated environments yield different visual results. But at least I can try to figure out why things look different in my world since it appears to be where the problem lies. I have a theory but I'm not sure how to verify it.

Don't remember exactly what I did it was a week ago and abt 4 AM whith little sleep when I did the editing. I do know that the paintbucket was not involved as I almost never use it.

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