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With fear and trembling
Old 02-08-2005, 11:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is my first non-workshop image and the first one I've posted for critique. Be gentle with me.

It was take with uncovered hot lights and light is very harsh. I did some PS post production to soften the face some.

I know there are lots of problems with the image, but I figure you might notice something I missed.

Thanks in advance.

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PS. The model is my wonderful wife.

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Old 02-09-2005, 12:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ron, a couple of things stick out. The positioning of her hand under her chin is awkward. Next time have her turn it to the side and let her fingers extend up the side of her chin or face. Also, if you had raised the camera postion just a couple of inches you could have cropped out that distracting picture frame that is going through the top of her head. One last thing. I would personally have gotten rid of the bracelet, but if she wanted to keep it then at least turn it around so we're not looking at the back of it. I will let someone else comment on the lighting. Sorry if this was too hard on you but its the little things that make or break a good photo.
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Old 02-09-2005, 12:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oops, my bad. Didn't include a photo with my critique.

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Re: With fear and trembling
Old 02-09-2005, 01:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Nice Capture.


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Re: With fear and trembling
Old 02-09-2005, 02:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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First, Bravo to the Misses, not many would pose (mine won't).
Refering to the hand under her chin again, I agree, have her turn her hand over, but also, have her not rest her chin on her hand. It makes her cheeks "poof" out too much. Just have the chin touch the fingers lightly. It gives the pose a softer feel, and her face/cheeks will look thinner.
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Re: With fear and trembling
Old 02-09-2005, 02:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I noticed the bracelet afterwards and the picture frame. Thanks for the suggestion on how to position her hand.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I hadn't put the hand position with the shape of her face. Thanks.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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other than the hand-chin/bracelet thing, which is awkward, distracting, and "schmutzes" her face in an unattractive manner, i think you shot this from too low an angle: that's why she seems to be sinking into the bed, especially her right arm and hand. btw, if you have a white comforter (or simply a white bedsheet) it would be less distracting and it would reflect some light back up onto her body.

even with those unmodified hot lights you can accomplish more-- try getting yourself some foamcore to bounce and fill. your light source is coming from camera left which is fine--left,right, your choice--but you could have moved the lights back some so that they "edged" her a little from behind. then, with some foamcore or a reflector, you could have bounced fill back into her face, brigthening up the eye areas (which are trying to pop out of some shadows)

you might suggest to your wife that she increase her make-up by about 25-30% as the lighting is going to wash it out about 25-30%.



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Old 02-09-2005, 03:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tips. I thought the comforter a little busy, but I hadn't thought how white would have provided some fill.

I did have a gold reflector on the right side, but I guess it was too far away and didn't provide enough fill. I didn't have a way to hold it so it was kind of hanging from a lamp.

Is the makeup wash out factor only for hot lights? Or would that be true for strobes too? What about natural light? I'm going to shoot a friend tomorrow and will probably be using the same lights, so I'd like to know what to tell her.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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yeah, the makeup washout is pretty much gonna happen with hot lights and/or strobes.

i'd definitely shoot exterior available light if i were you. since you have a gold reflector, maybe someone could hold it for you and bounce some sunlight back at your model, especially if you're shooting late in the day with the sun low in the sky. in that situation, i'd recommend having the sun behind your subject with its light bounced back (see pic below). if you're shooting early morning, which is often-times quite beautiful and soft light, the reflector might not do much unless its positioned very close.
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