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Simple portrait - Comments?
Old 08-15-2004, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Canon EOS 300D. 1/60 at f4.0, ISO 100. Desaturated and cropped in Photoshop CS. Natural backlighting, on-camera strobe for fill.

I was going through my shots from my shoot yesterday just picking the ones I wanted to review, and this one grabbed my attention to the point where I had to stop and do the preliminary work on it. Workflow? Who needs workflow? There's pictures to be messed with!

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Re: Simple portrait - Comments?
Old 08-15-2004, 10:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would like to see her chin turned a little more on camera with the subjects nose being accented with the on camera flash(shadow around nose). Eye lids a little heavy and expression a little flat for a portrait type. There is no life to her. Square crop needs more room below in my opinion as it's just not balance right for my taste. Image is gray and muddy on my monitor. No snap to it. I like the aspect of the natural hair light. Excellent controling that.



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Re: Simple portrait - Comments?
Old 08-15-2004, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1) I see what you mean about the chin and the shadow on her nose, but do you mean there's too *much* shadow* or not *enough* shadow? If I had my druthers I'd have less, as in none. But I want to make sure I'm not missing something.

2) Eyelids and expression, yes, I know. She went to a modeling school. *heavy sigh.* Toward the end I had her a little livelier. She should recover. Also, she showed up wearing false eyelashes. I should have told her to ditch them immediately, but I didn't. I thought, "Well, I've never shot somebody with glittery false eyelashes before. Maybe it'll be cool." Or... maybe not. Now she has weird eyelids in most of the pics. Chalk it up to experience. ("Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.")

3) The hair backlighting was what started me shooting her in that particular place. Here's original pic, straight from camera:



Only retouching I did on first pic was the crop and desaturate. (Adjustment Layer-> Desaturation. Master Saturation set to -100.) Did the desaturating make it gray and muddy, or did I start from an image with insufficient tonal variation? To my eye and on my monitor the first pic looks okay, but it could be better, snapwise. Suggestions, please?

4) Do you like original pic better than first crop, or somewhere in between, or did I just blow the whole framing in the first place? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I am very grateful for your advice and would be just as grateful for any expansion. It is not possible to hurt my feelings: if you say something I don't agree with, I'll just assume you're nuts. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Insufficient tonal variation?
Old 08-15-2004, 10:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Stop using big words for JT.

Little flat from the start, looks like, but you can pump the levels up or curve it to get more snap to it by opening up the midtones.

I hate nose shadows period. In this case it just accents the nose(bigger nose syndrome). Don't get me wrong, at least you don't have that 90 degree "rudolph" nose shadow as I call it.

I been called worse then nuts when talking shop so I was hoping you would take my comments of just talking shop.

Now, about FAKE Eyelashes............arggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggggggggggggg
Don't even get me started.....ok, you have.

Fake eyelashes not properly applied only do one thing...."make the eyes heavy and uneven" I am yet to see or work with an MUA or anyone to apply them correctly or even remotely to satisfy me. Sometimes I think, well maybe this time it will work but so far, it's not the case.....

FOR EXAMPLE.......ARGGGGGGGGGGGG



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Fantastic JT. You've inspired me yet again!!!

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