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Old 01-09-2009, 11:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well MSNBC has posted an interesting article that the porn industry is seeking a financial bailout because sales are down. In fact they say 22 percent down. Take a read, my take on this I might be able to get some lighting and grip gear for a discount.

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Well MSNBC has posted an interesting article that the porn industry is seeking a financial bailout because sales are down. In fact they say 22 percent down. Take a read, my take on this I might be able to get some lighting and grip gear for a discount.
I thought I knew everything about the porn industry, but what is "grip gear?" ... sounds kinky!
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The return should be better than the money thrown at the Big Three Auto Makers and Banks.
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If it were not so absurd it would be funny.

This is obviously an attempt to get free publicity more than anything else, and it is working.
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The return should be better than the money thrown at the Big Three Auto Makers and Banks.
Hey I work for a bank. We shall say one of the more conservative banks. The problem is that when the banks were making bad loans, money was coming in, there was no saving, and the leaders were scraping too much from the top. Even the bank I work for the leaders made too much money in my opinion. Arm loans and pick a pay loans were provided to people who simply could not afford them. Average foreclosure costs banks 40 grand in losses per house, so it is not wise to make bad loans. Very risky volatile times that some of the people in the sales got greedy and helped to make poor decisions.

Money can be made during hard times, companies and individuals just have to know how to make it. This in turn can be a good question to ask yourself. What is the difference that your photography business can provide clients that others are not providing. 80.00 for a porn DVD is a bit steep and most people will not spend that kind of money right now. An idea to bring the price point lower for the porn industry would be to put advertisements just like the regular movie industry to get movies to 10-20 dollars for DVDs. Newspapers traditionally make their money from advertisements and not from circulation. See then that industry can still be profitable and still entertaining for its customers.

We all have the equipment, we all have the knowledge to do great photography. Little neighborhood sports teams all have 15-20 kids to teams. It is traditional to have sports portraits. Total cost is usually 2.50 including processing. You charge 20 dollars to each kid to have a team photo and an individual photo. 20 kids at 18.50 net profit can yield you 350.00 for 1 hour of shooting. Usually there are several teams in the area that need your work so you can do the math. There is a ton of competition for weddings, but the sports photography is simpler, less stressful and you do not have to have as much equipment. Plus you can shoot this after 5pm after your regular day job providing extra income and leaving your saturday to do as you wish. As far as the soccer moms shooting this stuff, let em. You can bring lighting knowledge, scrims, and better equipment.

Wal-Mart, JC Penny and Sears can beat most of us on price. But can they beat you on quality, creativity, customer service? I will leave the 9.99 photo packages to them. I would rather do the event and custom photography any day.
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Money can be made during hard times, companies and individuals just have to know how to make it. This in turn can be a good question to ask yourself. What is the difference that your photography business can provide clients that others are not providing.
I see this question asked a lot, and there is no answer that applies to every aspect of photography. Nevertheless, a lot of people go by price only, or price mostly, or price much of the time.

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80.00 for a porn DVD is a bit steep and most people will not spend that kind of money right now. An idea to bring the price point lower for the porn industry would be to put advertisements just like the regular movie industry to get movies to 10-20 dollars for DVDs.
A bit of a strange segue here. Ok, you are saying that they need to bring their price down to "compete" with regular movies? But that is what they offer that makes them different. As you pointed out above, that is a difference they can provide that regular movies cannot.


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We all have the equipment, we all have the knowledge to do great photography. Little neighborhood sports teams all have 15-20 kids to teams. It is traditional to have sports portraits. Total cost is usually 2.50 including processing. You charge 20 dollars to each kid to have a team photo and an individual photo. 20 kids at 18.50 net profit can yield you 350.00 for 1 hour of shooting. Usually there are several teams in the area that need your work so you can do the math. There is a ton of competition for weddings, but the sports photography is simpler, less stressful and you do not have to have as much equipment. Plus you can shoot this after 5pm after your regular day job providing extra income and leaving your saturday to do as you wish. As far as the soccer moms shooting this stuff, let em. You can bring lighting knowledge, scrims, and better equipment.

You actually made a point at the beginning of this quote that sort of nullifies your last comment. You said, "we all have equipment, we all have the knowledge to do great photography. " Then as the end you say, "As far as the soccer moms shooting this stuff, let em. You can bring lighting knowledge, scrims, and better equipment."

Your last comment indicates "you" (I am not sure who that is), can bring better equipment, than "them". Sort of an oxymorn. Just because they are soccer moms, are you saying the cannot have the same cameras. etc? And as far as other equipment, they can have it and they can know how to use it. It is a matter of IF they do, not CAN they.

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Wal-Mart, JC Penny and Sears can beat most of us on price. But can they beat you on quality, creativity, customer service? I will leave the 9.99 photo packages to them. I would rather do the event and custom photography any day.
I had rather do custom photography also, but those people are getting rich , even if it is $10 at a time.

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Plus you can shoot this after 5pm after your regular day job providing extra income and leaving your saturday to do as you wish.
Exactly, and that is what is happening. well, except for the soccer moms. They don't have day jobs, I guess.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Ben you bring up many good valid points. Much of my intent in my last post was to get people to think about business. I enjoy talking about business and photography. Photography for some of us is a business. Its depressing when the media keeps putting negative information constantly in front of you. I also think some of it was blown out of proportion by the media and was further enhanced by the media creating the chicken little syndrom. There is always light at the end of the tunnel, and I think it will be coming soon. Part of my message to everyone is hold on, do what you can and be smart

Porn is a business. If these two porn capital investors are requesting squeezing money from everyone, they too also will have to go under the scrutiny to become profitable again. Everything will be under the public eye. If they are doing it as a publicity stunt as they may not actually need the bailout, that may get a huge public outcry. If they go out of business, someone else will just as easily replace them as the desire for this type of photographic entertainment will always be there. So for those of you worried that there will be no more porn in the future, relax. If there is a product/service that is inefficient or no demand for, a person needs to create a demand for it or modify the good or service. Efficiency being the delivery system, the production manner that it is generated etc. The most difficult task is simplifying the task and removing unnecessary steps, but keeping the same quality or increasing the quality. Perhaps there is an inefficiency that is in the porn industry that needs looked at. Maybe they need better financial advisors.

The portrait mills do their cheaper rates partially because they do a portait mill style of photography. These places are located conveniently where parents buy lots of goods. It is really beautifully efficient how they can get one child in, shoot and get them out of the door, I am envious. But they lack individuality, charm and often most of us can beat them with customer service because we have experience. Many of us complain about the GWCs and Soccer moms shooting our stuff. But we have to do good marketing and educate people about why the public should use your photography as opposed to other options. Part of marketing is educating to promote our businesses and network within our communities.

For those that believe that the porn industry is only supported in California. Think again, major hotels corporations and other big wall street corporations have their hands in the pot as well. Obviously the porn industry is very well networked.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...porn/business/
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