I am looking for responses from both photographers and models, beginners, amateurs or pros.
I have read what a couple posts have said about giving CD/DVD's of all images, high and low resolution, limited or total rights, shared rights, etc. what copyright issues arise? Approval of image usage, model releases, etc.
What is really fair? I would be inclined to say, what is a "real" model's rate, $10-$1000 per hour? Plus styling, wardrobe, props, make up, etc.
What are a "real Photographer's" rates. $10-$1000 per hour, plus images, prints, usage, expenses, etc.
Obviously, the rate would depend on ability, experience, facilities (for the photog or heck even maybe the model), nature of the images, head shots, nudes, adult, etc.
My initial reaction is that the photogs are giving too much away. If you trade time for time, experience for experience, the the photog still has more invested in the shoot, from raw materials, to wear and tear on equipment to studio space rental or other costs. Both parties have to train, so that may be a wash depending on their relative levels of experience.
My inclination is to trade time for time for experienced models and then charge for the rest, and lower cost session fees for beginners.
Otherwise, I would say be my model for this (test shoot, light test, image style) and I will execute a certain type of single image, (not frames of exposures, I shoot lots) that you want to add to your portfolio and will give you a print for your book. If you want to order reproduction pieces, I can sell them to you or license reproduction rights for a fee.
I keep hear about photographers can't afford to get this or that. It maybe because you are too busy giving away what you have to sell. This is based on a business model for photography rather that just a hobby of shooting pretty girls.
Photogs are probably only second to amateur magicians in giving away what they do, at the drop of a hat.
If an image is worth at least $25 a piece (insert your own number here) any you put 100 on a CD and a typical model fee is $300 (insert your own number here) why would a photog give away $2500 worth of pictures for $300 worth of services?