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Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-03-2010, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states (Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland), it is now illegal to record an on-duty police officer even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists." For more on this story, go here: http://www.thefreemanonline.org/head...-the-new-guns/

Interesting article, but hey, with dash cams in cruisers, it's ok to be recorded without your permission....just my two centavos, but boy are freedoms being taking away from us with modern day technology...thanks, rg sends!
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Re: Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-03-2010, 03:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the reason for this might be obvious. As we all know photographs don't accurately portray a scene. Light and shadow, camera angle, a limited field of view and poor or no audio are just some of the limitations of photography and amateur video. As photographers we use these "limitations" to create our art but these same "limitations" in the hands of a spin doctor can tell any story they want you to believe. Seeing should not always be believing.
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Re: Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-03-2010, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What you say is true, but a photograph can also capture the truth. It should be up to the jury to decide, after hearing both spins - seems to me preferable to outlawing a citizen's use of photography.
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Re: Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-04-2010, 12:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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very sad that this would pass.... i guess checks and balances are a forgotten thing.

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We lose more and more freedoms everyday. This is just another example. It make you wonder if the officers that beat Roddny King would have ever gone to trial without the video. It just sounds like the police don't like it because they have to watch what they do and not break the law themselves.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, as we all know, photographs show what the photographer wants to show, and not the whole scene, not even with the best photojournalist. It can show what we see as the "essence" of the scene, but in newspapers, there is a writer that in a lot of cases was not there and filling in lots of details and spin. On the one hand we can say that we are loosing freedom of speech, but when we remember that there are so many people out there with an agenda, that they want to portray police in a bad light, and the fact that we, the taxpayers have to pay for a public relations person to get out there and try to fix things for people that put their lives on the line to protect us, back into a good light, it's no surprise that some states say you can't photograph police officers in uniform. With regards to Rodney King, when you find out the rest of the story, even the rest of the grainy poor quality video that was shown, you start loosing sympathy for Rodney King. Sorry, for a guy who was high on PCP who lead the police on a high speed chase, putting the normal, law abiding citizen's life in jeopardy, along with side swiping police and resisting arrest multiple times, it's hard for at least me to think that he didn't have at least most of that beating coming - personally, I would have blown his head off.
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Re: Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-05-2010, 01:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What you're saying might be true, Isaiah, but as the Professor noted, "It should be up to the jury to decide."
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Re: Get arrested for public photography in 12 states...
Old 06-06-2010, 10:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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So it's OK to ban inflammatory photos, but not inflammatory remarks? The more data that is available the better chance we have of drawing the correct conclusion..
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Isaiah represents a growing voice in America (not picking on you buddy just stating a fact).

A lot of Americans do not understand the inevitable slide this country will make as public opinion and hearsay become policy. It happens at every level now. Even science is being debated like religious philosophy rather than working knowledge. When the people are afraid of their government, and seen as its adversary, we are in trouble.

Our courts and Constitution are not political playthings. They are the columns upon which this great nation stands. Unfortunately the table of democracy is very wobbly now and seems to be tilting right and downward. History shows this as the inevitable consequence of an uneducated and economically stressed populous. We always need someone to blame even though the enemy is always ourselves.

As our troops work and die everyday for an unnecessary economic and ideological war, we watch our basic rights and values abrogated for the necessity and fears of the moment. I call it the inverted pyramid of bull****. In the last forty years or so we have watched one illogical premise made law which in turn spawns another. To retrace our steps, even mentally, creates a migraine like blindness.

It ain't over folks but thanks RG for voicing one concern in a sea of many.
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Looks like bad cops have something to hide in some cases. The Rodney King situation was only one in hundreds of bad things that happen when someone in law enforcement thinks they are above the law. Ok so we know that Rodney King wasn't a nice guy but being beaten in public by the police after they caught him wasn't a good idea. A majority of amateur video users aren't going to have the ability to alter the video they did and not only that but there were eye witnesses to that case. If a cop gets himself on video for breaking the law then he shouldn't be able to hide from that fact.

Here in SC we've recently had two sherriffs get caught, one for selling confiscated weapons for personal profit and another for dealing drugs out of their offices. I don't think either of them were physically beat up when they got busted for it.
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