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Old 07-26-2008, 01:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Latifah, shot with the Canon 70-200mm f/4 lens.

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Old 07-26-2008, 09:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Art, another terrific shot. Do you recall at what distance you were shooting? At the 70mm end of your lens or the 200mm? Or somewhere in between? I'm just wondering how close to the model you usually get. Thanks.
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't have a specific distance that I make a habbit of shooting with models but for this particular shot it was 84mm. There are others in the set that were done at 200mm.

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Old 07-26-2008, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Beautiful picture!
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have a few recommendations:

1. I would have moved the belt strap between her legs.
2. I would like to have seen at least some of her right arm or fingers on her hip.

Otherwise....Nice!
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dave -

I agree completely about the belt strap. It's distracting and in an awkward location.

However, I don't know about the second suggestion - fingers from her right hand, or part of her right arm. In fact, I remember a couple of years ago, photographers were regularly criticized for having fingers, hands, feet, etc., appearing either from out of frame or from places behind the model - which seems to be what you're suggesting.

For the most part, I don't have a problem with shots where a limb appears unless it is hard for the viewer to subconsciously realize where it came from. I thought the people criticizing were blindly applying a rule of thumb - pretty much how I feel about people who criticize shots where the top of the model's head is NOT cropped - just as about five years ago, shots were "wrong" if the top WAS cropped off.

I guess what I'm asking is, when the model'shoulders are twisted so far from the camera-subject axis, do you think the "hands on hips" is NECESSARY, or simply one of several (many?) EFFECTIVE poses?

Someday, I gotta take one of your workshops and pick your brains in person on posing and lighting. Just too busy.
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I'm sorta with Dave on his second comment. Sometimes it is hard or would appear awkward for the model to have here limbs/hands in all photos. But then many times, either due to posing or cropping, it can look like the limb is amputated.

This is probably one of the first things I look at when I am editting my photos for composition.

I guess it's up to personal preference as it does seem that the old traditions are being dropped or change.

As for this image - I like the separation from the background, but the model could "pop" a little more. Is it my monitor? It looks like there is a slight cast to the image.
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I have a few recommendations:

1. I would have moved the belt strap between her legs.
2. I would like to have seen at least some of her right arm or fingers on her hip.

Otherwise....Nice!
Just got off the phone with the model and she says to me, "You mean my arm is supposed to show in every picture?" Seems she thinks that she isn't able to put her arm that far out of position when her body is turned the other way without making it look odd. Got a kick out of her response.
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Just got off the phone with the model and she says to me, "You mean my arm is supposed to show in every picture?"
Either the model can't read, or you misquoted what I said.

Where did I say that a model's arm is supposed to appear in EVERY PICTURE? And by the way, where did the image go anyway??

I made two suggestions to you based on 28 years of model, fashion, swim wear, celebrity, and commercial photography.

Just a little bit of the arm and/or hand in that pose would have added just the right element of the right side of her body, in my opinion.


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