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Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-25-2007, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is the Before and After theme again. Perhaps you'd like to comment on the starting image here of Kristen. My theme here, was to make the most radical makeover of a shot I could do within reason in less than 1 minute. So here is the before and after shot:


And here is a larger view of the after photo (right above):

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Before and After ... Part 2 

If you have before and after shots, feel free to post them in this thread. Naturally comments and questions are hoped for and expected.

Note: There is a slight fix that I failed to do on the above after images. What do you think it is?

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Re: Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-26-2007, 02:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The editing is wonderful! I love the softness added as well as the glamour effect, giving it a warm glow. Just curious what lighting do you use? It looks as though you are using the light from the side and perhaps a bit of backlighting? Is this correct? Gorgeous image! I'm still trying to figure out what you didn't do?? hmmm... very interesting...
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Re: Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-27-2007, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm still trying to figure out what you didn't do?? hmmm... very interesting...
I didn't sharpen the eyes in the after photo. Compare the before eye sharpness to the after. Normally, I would use the history brush to paint back in the sharpness (or use a black mask layer) of the before onto the after.
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Re: Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-27-2007, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing! That was driving me crazy. Lesson learned, pay more attention to the small detail! Do you ever oversharpen your eyes to get a different look, such as diamonds in the eyes? I've done that in some photos and my clients have loved the outcome.

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Old 11-27-2007, 06:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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IMO as the grasshopper to the Master...I think what you did in the short time was fantastic, but I think the highlights are a little blown out and the shadow from the hand in the lower right is very dark in contrast to the photo. (I did not catch the eyes...that would have been very important if it were printed.)

I use Paint Shop Pro X (I can afford this) and would have had to work a while to get close to what you accomplished in one minute. You must have predefined filters or macros that help you do many of the common steps. This is going out on a limb, but the Portrait Professional advertised on this site (you may not see it as a full member), will get the face very close to what you accomplished in less than one minute. I assume that it has built-in macros that automatically adjust features in different zones of the face with a predefined formula designed to "improve" a portrait based upon some statistical analysis of thousands of faces. I think you know from working with thousands of clients what works and can quickly get there.

Thank-you for the before and after. I learn something about photography everytime you post.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I love what you did with the after photo, it really gives a different look and maybe more dramatic feeling.... great job....
what was the PSD for this reasult....
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I love what you did with the after photo, it really gives a different look and maybe more dramatic feeling.... great job....
what was the PSD for this result....
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I was using Photoshop plugin called CEP 3.0 (formerly called NIK Color EFEX Pro). It has 52 filters and I used three of them to produce this effect. I've been using the product for about 3 or 4 years (version 1 and 2). This latest version was just released last week. The "glamour glow" and the "skin cleaner" are two of the key new filters. They also have some very powerful B/W conversion effects. You can read more about it here:

http://www.niksoftware.com/colorefexpro/usa/entry.php

Here is a link to another effect that I'm working on right now --- but its not quite where I want it yet.

http://www.rfredricksmith.com/michelle-vi-09.jpg

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Re: Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-29-2007, 07:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I've recently been using Portrait Professional and find it very good for achieving similar results. I use it on a duplicate layer and then adjust opacity to suit.

Very good work Roger, and thanks for the recommendation for Nik

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Old 11-29-2007, 06:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I've recently been using Portrait Professional and find it very good for achieving similar results. I use it on a duplicate layer and then adjust opacity to suit.

Very good work Roger, and thanks for the recommendation for Nik

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My understanding was, that Portrait Professional only deals with modification to the head in a shot, but does not affect the rest of the shot. Is that right, or is there something more that I'm missing.
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Re: Before and After ... Part 2
Old 11-29-2007, 09:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It says it effects skin area, but I think it changes some other tones slightly as well. There is a before and after you can look at to see what it is changing.

I was looking at Kodaks Digital Gem airbrush and another photographer recommended this to me. I like it, but it is easy to go too far, although that's a very subjective area.


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