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A lighting products question for Rolando
Old 10-27-2007, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This question was brought up by the whole Paul Buff / racism / whatever debate, but I really don't care enough about that to make a relevant comment, so I thought I'd take my off topic question to its own thread :

Since you don't like AB/WL, what DO you recommend for those of us who can't afford Hensel or Elinchrom?

Edit : This is open to anybody even though I put Rolando's name in the title.
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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
Old 10-27-2007, 09:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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All I ever used or have used has been White Lightning and Alien Bees, and most of my work is high end commercial.

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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
Old 10-27-2007, 10:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I use Novatron monolights. I have four of them: 3-M300s and 1-M500. They get the job done. They recycle fast. They have plenty of power for glamour shooting, the color temp is fine, and they're adjustable in 1/8 stop increments. They're also pretty tough: I've dropped them a few times. One time, one of them came off a boom from about 12 feet up and hit the concrete floor. But it keeps working--The flash tube and modeling light smashed and there's some dents on the unit but it still works fine. THat's one tough light.
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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
Old 10-28-2007, 04:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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First, I have nothing against AL/WL themselves, nor do I have anything against the photographers that use them. I personally like lights that work accurately, efficiently, and effectively, and some lights give you that ability to work better in the above than others.

If you can't afford Hensels or similar products, go for Dynalights.

The key is to study what lights have to offer for the money while remembering that Light is the Lifeblood of the image. It's better to spend good money on one great light and learn it first, then spend good money on a light kit and not know what one light can do for you. Here are some helpful posts/articles to help you choose.

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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
Old 10-28-2007, 07:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The article is an interesting read, thanks.

Why is 1/1300 flash duration ideal? (I see that is the rate for the Hensel). My camera can't sync faster than 1/250, so the shutter will be open for 1/250 regardless of how quickly the tube discharges it's watts.
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That's the beauty of strobe. Regardless as to the fastest sync speed of your camera, flash can stop action up to a 10,000th of a second or faster. The flash duration depends on many factors, including flash power and amount of ambient light or lack there of.
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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
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. But it keeps working--The flash tube and modeling light smashed and there's some dents on the unit but it still works fine. THat's one tough light.

Dents and scratches in your lights mean you're a big time pro.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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How about used/second hand?
I got a pair of Elincrom Prolinca 400s which work good enough for me. So far I've just had to change the flash tube and modelling lamp on one of them once and that was due to my own fiddling anyway (note to self, don't jiggle the bulbs when they're plugged in).

Nothing against ABs or WLs but they don't sell those in my country (Singapore) and the voltage difference makes it to messy anyway.
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Re: A lighting products question for Rolando
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Sorry, I should have tied my question back to the article. Here is what I was referring to:

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5. Flash Duration. The shorter the flash duration, the better, this is important when shooting outdoors. Durations of 1/1300 or more are great. This is important when capturing moving objects or action when utilizing short shutter-speeds outdoors, thus providing for a higher dynamic range when intermixing daylight with flash and better flash synchronization. Long flash durations will continue firing while the camera shutter has already closed, often this causes a color-shift toward the blue spectrum and also can cause un-sharp images.
The question is, why is 1/1300 or more great? Is 1/1300 some kind of theoretical limit or was it because that's the flash duration of the Hensel? If so, fine. I'm not criticizing that. I'd just like to understand the technical side of the article's use of 1/1300 duration, if there is one.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This question was brought up by the whole Paul Buff / racism / whatever debate, but I really don't care enough about that to make a relevant comment, so I thought I'd take my off topic question to its own thread :

Since you don't like AB/WL, what DO you recommend for those of us who can't afford Hensel or Elinchrom?

Edit : This is open to anybody even though I put Rolando's name in the title.

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To start with, I much prefer power pack type systems to any monolight type system. With a central power pack, the flash energy (W*s) to each flash head is adjusted from one location rather than having to access several monolights. Ease of use is an important consideration. In glamour photography, you should not spend much time making system adjustments with the model present.

My current studio flash system is a Calumet (made by Bowens) PS-4 3000 W*s power supply with four matching flash heads each 3000 W*s. It is an asymmetrical power supply with more than enough range of adjustment for most practical uses. I purchased all the equipment mentioned used but in excellent condition from e-Bay and other sources. A similar system but with digital controls is still marketed. With various umbrella reflectors, this system has served for all of my recent indoor photo shoots. Usually, for the living rooms and bedrooms that function as my studios, only two flash heads and two 45 inch diameter umbrellas are required. Some claim that the Bowens built flash systems have reliability problems. However, I have had no problems in the last two years with about 3000 images taken.

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