Who pays the bill?

[RobArtLyn]

Originally Posted by BobEdens

You guys get PAID???

MONEY????

Mostly, just in quatloos.

[Photomart]

Originally Posted by BobEdens

You guys get PAID???

MONEY????

dang

Yup! If I were a photographer in my 20s or 30s, I'd probably pay models just to shoot them in the nude, but since I'm a middle-aged old fart who has seen more than his share of bare boobs, they now pay me real money to shoot them nakid.

I try to live off the income from my commercial photography business ... and use the money from shooting escorts, strippers, sexy housewives and the like to buy more photography equipment! And, all this summer's shoots means that this fall will be a great time for me to get some new equipment!!

[Al_Nowak]

Originally Posted by RobArtLyn

Actually, many/most are independently poor...

I think this just indicates misplaced priorities... Do you really need food, shelter, family, heat, and water?

Originally Posted by RobArtLyn

Otherwise, they wouldn't always be wondering where to find models. They would just hire some.

By giving up a few simple so-called "necessities" you'll find models beating a path to your door... er... cardboad box.

[RobArtLyn]

Originally Posted by Al_Nowak

I think this just indicates misplaced priorities... Do you really need food, shelter, family, heat, and water?

Food: I need strength to carry my equipment and chase after models.

Shelter: My equipment is not weather-proof and must be kept out of extreme inclement conditions.

Family: Total distraction from the models and a drain on the photography equipment budget.

Heat: Equipment, models and I don't work well with covering of frost.

Water: If I smell too bad, models won't let me take close-ups.

So, it looks like I actually need 4 out of 5.

[jimmyd]

Everything Marty said plus there's the adult industry which includes everything from hard-core porn to soft-core T&A to men's mags.

[Al_Nowak]

Originally Posted by Dakewl

I have only done FTCD once, I always get paid, otherwise I couldn't afford my gear. And I think people dont value what is "free".

Let's think about this for a second. The images may be "free" to you, but they're certainly not free to the TFCD model in most instances.

Many times the model has to take time off from a paying job to do a TFCD shoot.

Then there's the expense of makeup, wardrobe, hair styling...

Have you been in the makeup/hair products aisle of a store recently? Those products certainly aren't cheap!

I've had girls come to shoots straight from salons where they've paid $60 to $100 or more for a hairdo.

Priced any Victoria's Secret lingerie lately? You can drop a significant chunk of change REAL quick on good looking lingerie.

So while you may consider a TFCD shoot images "free" if you are not supplying MUA, stylist, or wardrobe, I seriously doubt most models consider the images "free".