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Old 09-05-2007, 06:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm unhappy. My two favorite models came over last Friday and wanted to shoot at a nearby pool. It was midday, so the sun was hot and bright and all I had with me was a reflector and my SB-800. I had one of the models hold the reflector when I shot the other, then used my SB-800 when I shot both of them. When we looked at the pictures on my computer, all the images had a blue color cast from the light being reflected by the blue bottom of the pool. All the images were shot at my usual Cloudy-3 or Shade-3 WB. Even though these were shot as high JPG I color corrected them (as best as I could) using Camera RAW. The models love the final pix ... but I'm not happy. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a way to correct for the dreaded blue pool color cast (other than shooting later in the day?



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Re: Pool Picture Problems
Old 09-05-2007, 07:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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CUSTOM white balance!!
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Re: Pool Picture Problems
Old 09-05-2007, 07:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I thought these pictures were beautifully captured. A bit off WB does not bother a bit. Actually I often like to capture the true color of the environment on the model's face.

I enjoy your pictures very much.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Your pictures came out great. I especially like the first. However, if you want to try to balance it...

The pool is a light source..and is reflecting a blue cast from below while the sun is giving you a warmer cast from above. The good news is, yellow cancels blue -- so by adding yellow to the shot, you can cancel the blue pool and add a later day look to the light from the sun.

What color was the reflector? A gold reflector and/or a gel taped over your SB-800 would add yellow light. The tough part is getting the mix right. I don't think you can custom wb in a fire and forget mode reliably since the models will move, but you certainly could custom WB each scene. Final adjustments on the computer are probably unavoidable. But again, the shots you posted look great.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have the same problem when I shoot around the pool,..I use cldy wb also,..might try custom setting next time and see if it helps.
The shots look good to me though Marty,...and the models are very pretty.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Let me start out by saying that those are some great shots! . . . color not withstanding.

I don't have an answer to your problem, but just a related problem that I've noticed whenever I shoot around a lot of green foliage on a sunny day. The model gets a green cast that I haven't figured out how to remove with a camera setting yet. I know someone will say 'use a custom white balance', but shooting a white card and having the camera compensate hasn't worked for me yet. And sometimes the green cast is just on one side of the person and not evenly distributed across their entire person.

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Old 09-06-2007, 12:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, if dealing with this sort of thing after the fact, I usually resort to the NIK Efex Brilliance/Warmth filter. It works better with the original image, but here is what it might look like on your first shot:



The NIK filter lets you apply it selectively which I did in this case thus leaving everything but the models as it was. This process takes about 20 to 30 seconds.

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Old 09-06-2007, 10:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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CUSTOM white balance!!
DOH! I remember trying out the Custom White Balance when I got my camera ... five years ago! Haven't used it since then, and I definitely didn't want to bring out my trusty D100 Manual (which I always carry) in front of the models (because they were getting hot).

One last question ---
I have another pool shoot this evening and have a different issue to oversome. How do I eliminate the squiggly white water reflections on the model? Roger - is there a NIK Water Squiggle Removal filter?

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Old 09-06-2007, 01:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How do I eliminate the squiggly white water reflections on the model? Roger - is there a NIK Water Squiggle Removal filter?


You have to remove the water!

BTW, I strongly believe every non-studio edit should include WB as part of the work flow.
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