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Imitation being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-01-2007, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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However, sometimes it is a blatant ripoff.

The eyes, the pucker,... the bandana? Guess he didn't have a lamp shade so he went with a coat rack. Her bare foot is not sexy in the least.
The cut and paste model on the right with NO shadows from her shoes and legs of the chair.
And whats up with her ass all dented up and $hit? Dude, you had to cut her out anyway... Unflattering so much that SHE won't even put the image up in her portfolio.
Did he think that I would never see this? (I got 4 different emails from friends that saw it.) I always run across images of mine that have been stolen for party ads, myspace flyers, etc. But this time I gotta say... WTF?

Sometimes the attempts are so half ass lame that they lean more toward an insult. (And those of you that know me, know how I feel about half ass shooting....why even bother.)

Someone please hook a brother up and call this Frenchy out.


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Re: Impression being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-01-2007, 09:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but that's hilarious!!! How did you even FIND this? (NM, I see now where you said friends emailed you)
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't know Canada law, but think you might have a hard case. The model could ask for a copy of the release she signed. Or threaten slander for making her butt look funny.. [grin]

Another place to complain is his web host. Most web host providers won't tolerate a disputed image.
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Re: Impression being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-02-2007, 06:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I believe the idiom is "imitation is the highest form of flattery" and personally I think you should :

- be flattered that someone admired your work so much to attempt to copy it
- take pride that your skills are clearly far above the imitators
- be secure in the fact that your creativity resulted in the original

On the rare occasion that I've seen an image created or inspired by one of my works, that's the way I feel. How many great master works have been duplicated, re-spun, or warped into something new? Granted this photographer took your concept and tried to give it the Xerox effect with no success, but all the same...

I'd be mad if someone too my image and stole it outright (copied the pixels), but using someone else's work as inspiration or trying to learn from it is indeed as the idiom states "the highest form of flattery". YMMV.

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Re: Imitation being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-02-2007, 10:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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er, isn't it "... sincerest form of flattery?"

Clearly different - his models are all redheads. LOL!

Frankly, unless you have an unusual desire to make some money for lawyers, I think your best course of action is to simply mail the guy, including a (cheap inkjet) print of your image and mention how flattering it is to be copied, but suggest that he ought to improve his own skills or more slavishly copy your work, because his is clearly inferior. I.e., yours is WAY better.

[OTOH, I haven't made up my mind which I prefer between "Christina's World" and "Ginger's Latex."]
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Re: Imitation being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-02-2007, 02:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Indeed imitation is a very sincere from of flattery. I like how you added your own twist on the original. Nice work in my opinion.

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Old 09-02-2007, 03:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like your version best. Its a lot closer to the classic version I have on my wall with dogs playing poker instead of girls. There truly are not very many absolutely original themes, sets, ideas combinations, etc. I find that most of the best ideas have already been done, usually by artists hundreds of years ago and what they didn't play with, was left to the the pinup artists of the 40s and 50s.

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Above is my imitation of a Normal Rockwell illustration. Model is Haley.

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Old 09-02-2007, 04:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I saw a shot very similar to yours in a book, only as I remember it was kids playing in a field of grass. I like your shot better but wondered when I saw it if that's where you got your inspiration, I'll let you know the book if I come across it again, that is if you haven't already seen it.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't remember where I got my inspiration for the shot. I have seen the poker dogs painting, but I don't remember what it really looks like. And I am sure that there are many versions of it also. I have not seen the photo of kids playing poker. This shot could be considered a combination of several visions in my head of a poker game.

My photograph was taken in Las Vegas at the Cannery Row Casino Hotel.

Models Sabina Kelly, Melinda Miles, and Heidi Van Horne were in town for the Rockabilly Rod Reunion and I was in town as an instructor for JT Smith's SuperShoots Workshop.

I had shot Sabina several times for hotrod and tattoo magazines and this was a chance for everyone to get together all at one time.

I knew that I wanted the girls to be playing "strip poker." And what better time to cheat at cards when you are playing strip poker. We shot for about 20 mins using different setups and expressions in various stages of undress for the models.
The image that is the final result is actually a photoshop "Frankenstein" of Heidi's head with the perfect "not cheating" expression with the eye roll and whistling as Sabina winks at her.
Then several layers of color shifts and saturation to give it the cross processed vintage photo feel.
I initially wanted to replace the model's heads with dog heads, however, the more I looked at how each expression played off each other, the more convinced I was to leave the heads on. And the models were also pleased that I decided not to remove their heads.
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Re: Imitation being the highest form of flattery?
Old 09-03-2007, 03:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, there are many versions of the dog shot. Here is an example of one:

http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Mercha...ng%20poker.jpg

You'll note the passing of cards to the partner using the toes. This seems to be a common theme in all of them. I think yours works very well and I'm glad you didn't put the dogs heads on the girls. The PS work really works well and gives it a very "illustration" look.

Since I'm into this pinup thing I think I'll have to imitate the Dog illustration in an upcoming shoot -- looks like fun!

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