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Old 05-07-2007, 10:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, I'm considering a ring light because I think it'll make my life easier when shooting the dog portraits I do....plus I like the look of a ring light on models. Anyway, my reasoning is that since the dogs tend to roam around the ringlight might make it easier to keep the lighting nice and even as I move with them...Am I correct in assuming that?

Secondly, how do you meter for a ringlight? and does it replace your main light?
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A ringlight for dog portraits? That's a new one on me. I borrowed the new Alien Bee ringlight for about a month ... then sent it back. Sure, it gives a very flat "fashion" look, and ocassionally I like that look ... but it's not easy to use when shooting moving models ... like dogs. Why? Because as you move closer to the model (dog) the exposure gets lighter. As you move farther from the subject, the ringlight moves farther and the exposure gets dimmer. This makes it hard to meter correctly on a subject that moves closer and farther from the camera. Add to that the size of a dog's eyes and you'll probably see a lot of dogs with redeye. So, in my humble opinion ... you're barking up the wrong tree!
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Photomart, I guess I was wrong assuming that being able to take the light source with me while moving with my subject would make it easier to keep the lighting consistent.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm no expert sir, but I think a ringlight might be a little harder because of the roaming...

Your exposure settings are based on the distance of the light from the subject.
Then, if your light is off-camera, you can move the camera to compose your shot without changing the exposure. If the light is on your camera (like in a ringlight) you'd have to stay a constant distance from the dog to keep the same exposure. That might be tricky if the dog is moving towards or away from you. You'd need to constantly adjust either your aperature or the power on the ringlight.

Metering is done best with a dedicated flash meter (assuming you mean a strobe ringlight and not continuous "hot" lighting).

Hope this is somewhat helpful. =)
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys. I can't believe I overlooked that the exposure would change as I moved...<------ dumbass
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Moving with a ringlight is a bitch (pun intended) but it can be done. There are two videos on my site where I use a ringflash one is at a beach, but I maintained distance and one was at a diner where I was constantly moving. Once you lock in your exposure, for a given distance you have to either ride your flash or your aperture/shutter to maintain exposure which means chimping some, but you get used to it.

Here the direct link to the diner shoot:

http://www.paramourproductions.com/f...ca_luckys.html
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Great Vid...most entertaining (especially for the guys outside!) and educational. Was that a power cord you were dragging around with the light? Must have been a hassle.

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Yes, the thick cable you see is hooked up to a Hensel Porty unit which is powering the ringflash. Again, it's one of those things you get used to. The only time it's really a pain is when you're shooting in water (like in the beach vid) as you have to make sure it stays out of the water....
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