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Images from the b'ham workshop
Old 05-02-2007, 11:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A few images of Holley from the Birmingham workshop.

Please critique. I need all the help I can get.

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Old 05-02-2007, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What camera, lens, exposure, capture mode and lighting were used to make these images? The skin looks too orange and yellow and a little splotchy. I am curious if it is just a result of posting to this forum, or do your originals have the same issues? I will use that information to flesh out my comments.
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Old 05-02-2007, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was using a Canon 30D, 28-135 IS at 65mm f5.6 at 1/125 ISO 100 with the WB at 6000k. I am not completly sure about the lighting. It was two lights one in front and one to the side/rear. The lights were about 12" to 20" wide and about 48" long.
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But they were flashes or hot lights?

Let me edit that, they had to be flashes for that fstop/shutter speed combination.

The 6000K is what is giving you the orange, but still see some yellow here. How do they look on your monitor? Are you getting the same splotchy skin? Holley normally had very smooth skin in the pictures I have seen here.

Contrast and saturation are a little high too. That is why I think it may be due to how you save them to post here. Maybe RFS will chime in.

I like the expressions and cropping. Maybe a little too dark, but again that could be the posting.
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how about the color on the third image? it is a little different.

As for the splotchy skin I guess I am not exactly sure what you are saying or maybe I just don't see it.
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The third one looks the best. The first two are a little harsh.
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I think the lighting looks uneven on the face. Here's a screen shot with some arrows to some of the areas that seem uneven:



I suspect the lighting was two strip lights and that there were grids on the lights. At 5' from the model, this will form a fairly hard lighting and we can see this in #1, especially, if we look at the shadows. But there may be a post processing problem also. The teeth are ultra white in #1, much whiter than they should be. It would be interested to see the original photo. Was it JPG or RAW? In my opinion the shot is too warm. While 6000K may work for some, I generally find its still better to do a Custom White Balance and then warm as needed during post. Keep in mind also that shooting at 6000K for different light sources will not give consistent results. You need to base the WB temp on the temp of the light source. #3 looks a lot better from a WB standpoint but is still suffering from the uneven lightness and darkness of different skin area.
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For my tastes, #1 doesn't look like Holley. I know it is her, but looks like someone several years older forcing a "glam" smile.

However, the composition in #2 is right on. If the image is a crop, I might like to see more of the shoulder closest to the camera. If that's the whole image, no harm, but I think a bit more of her neck and shoulder could make the image more feminine. Either way, it's a dramatic image.

I know that 6000k was recommended at the workshop but you might want to try 5700k or 5800k as a compromise. That way, you leave some room to adjust in post production.

That's just my opinion, I could be a bowl of sorbet. . .

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is this the same Holley?

Skin tones, post processing...where you going with that stuff?

Post the images as it came out of the camera and then we'll see what you are up to.

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Ok, here are the originals. I resized them and then saved for web.

I went back and looked at them again after all of your comments and I definitely lost it with the contrast although I am not saying that was the only problem.

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