Lens Diaries Go Now
Glamour, Beauty, Nude, Models, Photographers

*    |  Register  


 
Go Back   Garage Glamour™ > Garage Glamour™ Main Forums > Main Community Forum
 

Main Community Forum General Modeling & Photography Forum
Adult posts prohibited!>>Please Read Our GUIDELINES before posting!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-13-2007, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
Free Member

 
Lester_Zeppelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Member GG#: 56988
Location: Hartford
Posts: 34
Comments: 0

Lester_Zeppelin is offline IP: 68.9.115.139
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Could anyone steer me to a good tutorial on makeup prep for glamour photography? Not only facial, but full body and hair. What products, when and how to use them, etc?

Thanks
LZ
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Lester_Zeppelin Visit Lester_Zeppelin's homepage! Find More Posts by Lester_Zeppelin
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-13-2007, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Free Member

 
cozanostra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Member GG#: 41057
Location: Newcastle, South Africa
Posts: 206
Comments: 0

cozanostra is offline IP: 196.25.255.194
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Try this link to a makeup forum:

1) http://p082.ezboard.com/fmakeupandrelatedindustriesfrm5

2) The http://www.kevynaucoin.com/ site has some lessons, you should also check out the forums there too.

Hope these help.
__________________
THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S PRAYER; If I should die, O Lord, please don't let my wife sell the camera equipment for what I told her it cost us!!
  View Public Profile Send a private message to cozanostra Visit cozanostra's homepage! Find More Posts by cozanostra
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-14-2007, 02:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer

 
TCProd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member GG#: 57569
Location: Oaklyn
Posts: 125
Comments: 0

TCProd is offline IP: 68.44.114.33
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

LZ, I'd also suggest any of Aucoin's books. Full of photos, with "before" images, as well as diagrams similar to the ones on the web site.

I'm not a MUA, but was a music major and took two semesters of stage makeup. The principles are the same, although makeup for the stage is much more extreme (especially opera) since it has to counteract much more light and distance.

If you can find closeup pictures of someone made up for the stage, you can get an idea of what a MUA is trying to accomplish with contouring. The stage example will be (very much) heavier, but allows you to see what has been done.

I like MAC products, but you can still get great results from the drugstore.

Tom
  View Public Profile Send a private message to TCProd Visit TCProd's homepage! Find More Posts by TCProd
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 01:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
____________
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Member GG#: 35406
Location: Bogus
Posts: 947
Comments: 0

Al_Nowak is offline IP: 68.255.74.112
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lester_Zeppelin View Post
Could anyone steer me to a good tutorial on makeup prep for glamour photography? Not only facial, but full body and hair. What products, when and how to use them, etc?

Thanks
LZ
It's not rocket science, but it still takes a modicum of talent to do really well. And then there's the matter of collecting all the products in various colors. It can get a bit expensive.

The Aucoin books are very good, but I'd recommend

Classic Make-up and Beauty by Mary Quant, about $13.95 in paperback.

Has the fundamentals of analyzing a face, picking colors, and doing things the right way. Not much if any there on body makeup and you'll have to look elsewhere for hair, but still recommended as a starting point.

There are other excellent books by Bobby Brown, Way Bandy, and a slew of others.

Don't forget magazines... Allure and Glamour often have extensive makeup articles.
__________________

Elvis has left the building...
  View Public Profile Send a private message to Al_Nowak Find More Posts by Al_Nowak
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 07:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member GG#: 43925
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 98
Comments: 1
Send a message via MSN to SallyK

SallyK is offline IP: 71.228.48.111
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I agree, the Kevyn Aucoin books they are fabulous. I am a MUA, professionally trained specifically for film and photography. It takes years of trial and error to do what we do, some books will help, however makeup is different for photography than it is for everyday. Your best bet might be to hire a Mua and get some tips from them, I find that hands on works the best.
However I use no MAC products at all, they have been testing on animals for years, and their products are very much watered down. You don't have to buy the most expensive products, just the ones that work for you. Some products work well in photography lights and some don't.
  View Public Profile Find More Posts by SallyK
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 04:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
Aspiring Photographer

 
CatCynic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Member GG#: 50625
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 432
Comments: 0

CatCynic is offline IP: 220.253.28.132
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Slightly off-topic, but I have seen strong opinions for and against MAC makeup both here (look above) and elsewhere.

Yesterday I read a comment that said there were at least two lines of MAC makeup - one for street wear, and one for photography (and film). The comment went on to say that the street wear makeup was not at all suited to photographic work because the foundations and blush contained things that reflected strobe light badly (please excuse my highly technical paraphrasing).

Might that explain the polarised opinions? Or is that just an apologist's attempt to defend the brand?

I don't have an opinion either way - I'm just curious.

- - -

As to the topic - I would strongly urge hiring a professional MUA if at all possible - a good MUA makes a big difference to the images. Photographic makeup is not something you can learn in a few days.
__________________
they say you have to take a thousand bad photos before you can take a good one - I have mastered the bad photos part...
  View Public Profile Find More Posts by CatCynic
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 07:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer

 
TCProd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member GG#: 57569
Location: Oaklyn
Posts: 125
Comments: 0

TCProd is offline IP: 68.44.114.33
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Cat,

Sally gave valid reasons for her opinion and I respect them, especially considering that she is a MUA and I am not. I am not "pro-MAC" enough to argue.

When a novice mentions "makeup" I usually assume that they are speaking about foundations. Personally (YMMV) I like the "Studio" line of MAC foundations (Fix and Tech) because of the wide variety of colors and the ease of blending. In better-trained hands that might not be necessary. They are rather expensive though (even with the pro discount), and the Studio Tech is used up in a heartbeat.

I cut my teeth on Stein's and Ben Nye, but they are designed primarily for theatrical lighting. As I said, you can get great results from drug store products.

There are certainly pro and con zealots out there, but I'm not among them. Show me something better/easier and I'll listen. (In fact, Sally's "animal testing" comment has given me something to think about.)
  View Public Profile Send a private message to TCProd Visit TCProd's homepage! Find More Posts by TCProd
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 07:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member GG#: 43925
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 98
Comments: 1
Send a message via MSN to SallyK

SallyK is offline IP: 71.228.48.111
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Well... it is just my opinion, alot of MUA's and regular gals use MAC and love it, I have heard alot of good things about the pigments they carry, which are beautiful. I have always just used, "cruelty free" or "animal friendly" makeup, it just me, call me a softie! I have found some wonderful products to use that shoot well, look natural and stay all day, considering I travel with Rolando to all his exotic workshops, and Texas ones, I had to find something the shot well in the heat but stayed put and didn't look like a mask. The models love it, and most important the photographers loved it too.
Good Luck , as I said before, trial and error is the only way to really find out if you like a product or not.
  View Public Profile Find More Posts by SallyK
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 07:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
Lifetime Photographer

 
TCProd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Member GG#: 57569
Location: Oaklyn
Posts: 125
Comments: 0

TCProd is offline IP: 68.44.114.33
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Any chance that you'll come to one of the "non-exotic" workshops? (Philly)
  View Public Profile Send a private message to TCProd Visit TCProd's homepage! Find More Posts by TCProd
 
Re: Makeup for Glamour Photography
Old 03-16-2007, 07:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member GG#: 43925
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 98
Comments: 1
Send a message via MSN to SallyK

SallyK is offline IP: 71.228.48.111
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

I actually do all the Texas ones, Chicago, and have been trying to get Mike Dean to get me to Philly! I know Steve Ball has been dropping some hints to RG, would love to come to Philly, went through there on my way to Maryland Workshop with Mike Dean and Co. I want to see the bowling alley in the basement!!!!
  View Public Profile Find More Posts by SallyK
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DDC PHOTOGRAPHY DDC Graphics Introduce Yourself 7 04-12-2009 09:48 PM
Seeking Makeup Artists/Enthusiasts Casting Main Community Forum 0 02-06-2008 06:32 PM
fashion vs Glamour photoguy2003 Main Community Forum 31 04-24-2007 05:01 PM
NPR link about digital photography filmtony Tech Talk Forum 0 11-06-2004 10:17 AM
Getting started in glamour photography?? My suggestions.. JohnPaul Tech Talk Forum 12 10-20-2004 12:35 PM

Sponsors


New To Site? Need Help? Photographer & Model Links
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:08 PM.

© 1999-2017 Garage Glamour™




Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93