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Old 02-17-2007, 04:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been trying to post a couple of images for consideration. They are smaller than the size limit for JPEG (at least according to photoshop) but keep getting bounced as too large.
What am I doing wrong?
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think there are TWO size limits - one limit on file size, the other on dimensions - you might want to check both.
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Re: Image sizing?
Old 02-17-2007, 05:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am wondering if you save them after resizing in the original resolution? When I resise in PS and go to save mode a little window pops up labeled "JPG Options". the lindow has a slider on it. Move the slide to about 7, although I hear people slide down to 6 and some as high as 8. For web ready images 7 is fine. If you're not folloing this procedure try it next time and it should work just fine. If still not successful post the steps you're following so we can eliminate guess work. Best wishes.

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Old 02-17-2007, 05:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been trying to post a couple of images for consideration. They are smaller than the size limit for JPEG (at least according to photoshop) but keep getting bounced as too large.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
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The size limit for a free member is 200k file size, and the largest dimension is 1024x1024. If you submit an image larger than about 600x600 it gets resized for display purposes on G1 since 600 pixels high is about the max that will display in browser so the user can see it all at once.

The best way to save, if you have Photoshop, is to use File | Save for Web. You can also resize there. Choose High Quality. For a typical 600x400 pixel image that will give you a filesize of 50 to 75K.

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Old 02-18-2007, 07:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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OK, when I tried save for web, the image looked crazy pixellated.
Tried another version, 72dpi, 596K image size, saved at JPEG quality 5 (!), 500 px high by 407 px wide...and it got kicked back as exceeding file size by 37kb!
Saved that same image "for web" at highest quality and got told it exceeded file size by 21 kb!
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its difficult to say what is happening without seeing your actual image. But in general here is the exact workflow to use Photoshop's Save for Web:

1. Load photo in Photoshop
2. Do your post processing -- cropping, curves, sharpening, etc.
3. Select File | Save for Web (not Save As)
4. Select JPG at a High quality setting.
5. Select the Image Size tab which is next to the Color Tab.
6. If the image is in portrait mode, type 600 into the Height Box. If the image is in the landscape mode, type 600 into the Width Box. Be sure the Constrain proportions is checked in either case.
7. Click the Apply button.
8. Click the Save button.
9. Enter a file name and folder and then save.

Now upload that photo to G1.

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Old 02-18-2007, 11:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Roger;
We're trying to help him from different perspectives, I wonder what version of PS he is using. I'm one not too pleased with automated version of doing image changes, prefer to do as much manual work as possible where I have more control of the outcome. It makes me uncomfortable to think that we can't solve this simple problem, something is got to be missing here.

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Its difficult to say what is happening without seeing your actual image. But in general here is the exact workflow to use Photoshop's Save for Web:

1. Load photo in Photoshop
2. Do your post processing -- cropping, curves, sharpening, etc.
3. Select File | Save for Web (not Save As)
4. Select JPG at a High quality setting.
5. Select the Image Size tab which is next to the Color Tab.
6. If the image is in portrait mode, type 600 into the Height Box. If the image is in the landscape mode, type 600 into the Width Box. Be sure the Constrain proportions is checked in either case.
7. Click the Apply button.
8. Click the Save button.
9. Enter a file name and folder and then save.

Now upload that photo to G1.

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Old 02-18-2007, 11:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Roger;
We're trying to help him from different perspectives, I wonder what version of PS he is using. I'm one not too pleased with automated version of doing image changes, prefer to do as much manual work as possible where I have more control of the outcome. It makes me uncomfortable to think that we can't solve this simple problem, something is got to be missing here.
Well Save for Web is basically the same in all recent versions of Photoshop over the last 5 or 6 years. Save for Web is not an automated process, but just a method of saving that give one the best filesize reduction for saving and is also an easy way to resize. From his description, he did not actually used Save for Web but used File | Save as. The reason I suspect this is that he says he chose 5 as the quality and in Save for Web the choice range is from 0 to 100 but only in Save As would the choice range be 0 to 10. So if he starts with a 2mb image and resizes it in Photoshop he may very well still have a 300-500k image which won't work and the Save As won't reduce the filesize enough. Save for web will reduce that image to the 100k range. But short of an exact description of what he is doing, at this point we are still somewhat guessing based on clues of what we've heard.
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If you use the Save for Web there is another option. Just to the right of the Settings pulldown there is a right arrow button. If you click on it you should see an option "Optomize to File Size". Using that you can input a target File Size (use the biggest you can according to the restrictions of G1) and the program will determine the amount of JPG compression that will give you that or something very close.

It's a great tool but unfortunately I don't think there is a way to automate that. I've used it often but have to input the target each time.
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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This is the method I use, whether the quality is good enough for you I don't know...
http://www.kennymc.com/resize.htm
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