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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Of course it is a tragedy. Making light of tragedies is nothing new. It is a part of the human experience.

If you can't look at the tragedies in your life and laugh then maybe you are missing out on a little of what life has to offer. Learn to laugh in the good times and bad. Laughing during a tragedy does not change the fact that it is a tragedy.

Having said that...let's understand there are tragedies and there are tragedies. This is a sad situation, but come on. Anna Nicole Smith made a lot of money on a tv show that was designed to make you laugh at the horror that was her life.

This is sad, but...I dunno...somehow the horror that was her life seems like a greater tragedy
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I respect your opinion, and, I don't entirely disagree with you. Right now, tragedies don't make me laugh, they make me think. Comedians make me laugh.

I think today, we lost a great talent. What really happened, how much money she made and how is no longer relevant to me. I never liked her TV show.

What really sux is the media will sensationalize and the mother, the father, the brother, the sister, the daughter, the husband and the lover will now all be subject to further pain for years. And I just can't find any humor in it.

But, that’s just me.

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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-08-2007, 09:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think today, we lost a great talent.
A talent? Mayyyyyyyyyyyyybe...not so much.

We did lose a tabloid sensation. And she was brilliant at it...and we were spoon-fed, and ate every bit. Even now, just hours after her unfortunate passing...we still can't get enough.

Maybe she wasn't the complete fool we thought.

From a model standpoint, it's the classic story of Life in the Big City and ending up with the wrong people who turn you into a thing and less a person, determined by hell and high water to never let go of the spotlight or the money once the looks fade from youth.
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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-08-2007, 09:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Blonde, beautiful and famous seems to be a formula for tragedy in America.

And I am not sure if Playboy and its culture is not part of the problem.

My heart goes out to Anna and her family but I am also concerned for people I know like Holley and even you, Lisa. Even though I consider all of your beauty a great gift to us, it also seems that in America that gift can be so corrupting that it poisons your soul.

Sorry for being so maudlin but look at the sad record of these fabulous women. Clearly, society exploits them as much as they exploit society. Unfortunately, society goes on unharmed and buries the corpses of its sex idols with little feeling and a great lust for scandal.

Anna Nicole Smith is not the last in a long tradition of voyeuristic sexuality, scandal, and death.

My only positive thought on this is that we all should be more considerate and loving towards those close to us and the models and actresses we work with everyday. Sometimes a single kind voice can make the difference between despair, self destruction or survival.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Are ya kiddin'? Read what they're saying on Fark:

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comm...IDLink=2596842

And if you happen to find any of it humorous....you'll go straight to heck, and somewhere, a cute little kitten will be swallowed by a whale. Shame on you.

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PS: and for those outraged by anti-Anna-ism, this is for you: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17054970/
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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-08-2007, 10:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Rest in Peace Anna.
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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-08-2007, 11:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I respect your opinion, and, I don't entirely disagree with you. Right now, tragedies don't make me laugh, they make me think. Comedians make me laugh.

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There's a rule in comedy that goes like this: Tragedy + Time = Comedy. The greater the tragedy, the longer the time before it's okay to make comedy of it. Smith's death is sad. It's always tragic when someone so young dies. How tragic Ms. Smith's death is, in the greater scheme of things, will dictate how long it will be before her death is fair game for comics. My guess is, it won't be a very long time. Just my opinion tho. I could be wrong.
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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-09-2007, 01:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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And unfortunately, a high profile death like this, will spawn huge media coverage. Whenever we're dealing with the ownership of Billions of dollars there is going to be all sorts of media attention to the event. It is, indeed, a lot like the Marilyn Monroe death, although in Marilyn's case the conspiracy theories were more political in nature whereas here, they will probably be money related.

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It's not just the money. Lets face it, Anna chased the spotlight. Playboy, marrying a REALLY old quabillionaire, the TV show, supreme court case, Trimspa, she wanted attention. None of that would have happened if she didn't want the media's focus on her. It's not like they just picked up this story. My wife told me that Rosie was on the view this morning, before it happened, saying she was tired of seeing Anna in the press with the court case, custody battles etc.

It sucks her kid won't know her mother. It sucks no one seems to know for certian who the child's father is. She was beautiful and seemingly half crazy. It's too bad, but honestly I was wasn't shocked.
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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
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Well as far as the Fark comments, those people are just sick. I personally don't feel it's right to make jokes and cracks over someone who has died. I guess I have a little more respect for people than many others do. Death to me is a very serious thing and shouldn't be taken lightly. Yes I understand celebrating ones life after they've died but not making fun of it. There is a big difference there...

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Re: Anna Nicole Smith found dead
Old 02-10-2007, 07:42 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I amthinking that the cracks are more about how she lived rather than how she died.
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...in today's New York Times:

Why Did We Watch? The Answer Isn’t Pretty

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Published: February 10, 2007

Becoming famous is relatively easy: Anna Nicole Smith was born with a beautiful face, a big smile and a voluptuous body she was happy to bare for Playboy. Staying famous for nothing much is hard work, and that is the real story of Ms. Smith’s life and death. Her desperation for fame was so raw that she didn’t mind being the butt of the joke if it helped maintain her place in the spotlight. Her career started out tacky, went downhill from there and ultimately says more about the culture’s fascination with celebrity than it does about Anna Nicole Smith.

While most stars play a clever cat-and-mouse game with the media, Ms. Smith’s sport was Extreme Fame. Her sense of how to court attention was simply to show up, pose and practically say, “Come get me, use me.” In that blatant desire for publicity she embodied the ultimate symbiosis of celebrity: between an individual who acted as if life out of the spotlight were worthless, and a press and public eager to indulge her craving for attention.

But without any actual career to back up her claim on the public, the question becomes: why did we watch? The unsettlingly vapid reason: because we could. She was a glittery spectacle who offered guilt-free voyeurism, as we watched her dramas with drugs and weight and inheritance laws. And the lesson of her fame is that there is no lesson.

All the attempts to justify her fame that have flowed in since her death on Thursday are hollow. She was not Marilyn Monroe; the closest Ms. Smith came to a real movie career was a small role in the spoof “Naked Gun 331/3 : The Final Insult.” She was not a rags-to-riches inspiration; most little girls don’t dream of growing up to be Playmate of the Year, marrying an 89-year-old billionaire and fighting for his money all the way to the Supreme Court. And she was not a cautionary tale; she courted attention too relentlessly to seem innocent or deluded.

There was the ring of truth in what her mother told “Good Morning America” yesterday: that her daughter said, “If my name is out there in the news, good or bad doesn’t matter, good or bad I make money, so I’m going to do whatever it takes.” It says a lot about the bubble Ms. Smith lived in that even her mother, Virgie Arthur, communicated with her daughter through the media. On “Good Morning America,” Ms. Arthur said she had tried to warn her estranged daughter about her drug use, and had done so by appearing on the Nancy Grace show.

Ms. Smith’s lust for fame coincided with a media explosion she could exploit. After her weight ballooned, and her modeling career declined, she latched onto the reality television craze. But her two seasons of “The Anna Nicole Show” on E! revealed how inept she was at shaping an image. Her speech was slurred, her voice was whiny, her manner was demanding, and the curiosity that fed the ratings quickly dissipated. She seemed beyond pathetic by 2004, after she became a diet-product spokeswoman and showed off her newly slim body in another slurry appearance at the American Music Awards.

Her story took an indisputably tragic turn in September, when her 20-year-old son, Daniel, died days after Ms. Smith gave birth to a daughter. Yet even then she couldn’t rise above the lurid nature of her fame. She sold photographs of her son and newborn in the hospital room where he died to In Touch magazine; even now, video of her Caesarean section is available on YouTube.

And soon an ugly paternity battle over the infant broke out in a flurry of media interviews, with two men claiming to be the father: Larry Birkhead, a former boyfriend, and Howard K. Stern, Ms. Smith’s longtime lawyer and confidant. (He seemed glued to her on the reality show.) It’s no surprise that Mr. Stern announced his fatherhood on “Larry King Live,” with Ms. Smith by his side.

The messiness of her death — its unknown cause, the continuing legal battles about the inheritance and the little girl’s paternity — have made its aftermath just as media-centric as her life, with cable news channels trotting out a parade of casual former boyfriends, sometime-friends and estranged relatives.

Donna Hogan, Ms. Smith’s half-sister, talked to Larry King on the phone about her forthcoming book (announced long before Ms. Smith’s death), predictably called “Train Wreck: Anna Nicole Unauthorized.” Ms. Hogan said she hadn’t seen her sister in about a decade.

And while commentators are struggling to find meaning in her life, the responses to her death in the hours just after it was announced may more accurately reflect the public attitude toward her as a joke who drew gawkers rather than fans.

Many reactions seemed to defy the usual courtesy of not speaking ill of the dead. A post by the Web site Wonkette.com said, “the dope-addicted floozy Anna Nicole Smith keeled over dead in a Florida hotel about an hour ago,” a fast turnaround of irreverence even for the Internet. Geraldo Rivera on the Fox News Channel put the blame for Ms. Smith’s sorry life on Mr. Stern, saying, “He’s a pimp,” who sold her to the media. (What does that make her?) And even Larry King, the friendliest of anchors, told Wolf Blitzer that Ms. Smith was “not the smartest person in the world” before praising her good humor and good heart.

The news of her death brought the inevitable jolt that comes when anyone dies suddenly at 39. And there is the inescapable tragedy of a 5-month-old left without her mother. But Anna Nicole Smith’s fame is as sad and shallow in death as it was in life, just as much of a tawdry compact between her and us.
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