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Old 01-04-2007, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rick,

Congratulations on your cover. At first glance, I was like, "nice shot," but then when my photo editor mind kicked in, I began to ask myself, is the grass growing out of each model's head supposed to be there? especially for a "prom and pagent" catalog showcasing clothing, not hair?

A few other things bother me about this image, one, the "panel of white" growing outside the model's left face (our right) in the white dress and because any photo editor will tell you the human eye will always go to the brightest part of the image, in this case the concrete, not the dress. Do we really need that washed out concrete in the image for this type of cover? On top of a crooked horizon line created by the water and the concrete. To prove my point, use your browser's window up and down scroll and scroll the image down to crop out most of the concrete and all the water out, big difference.

Again, congrats on your cover but I've seen better images from your talents than this one. Wishing you the best, rg sends!

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Old 01-04-2007, 01:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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While this isn't the "Photo Review & Critique" forum, it's been my experience, at GG/G1, that most every image posted in any forum is, generally, fair game for C&C. We're all part of a family here and that's what families do-- they criticize each other.

When I first glanced at the image, I thought the flora growing from the model's heads were some kind of pageant headgear rather than, what I sometimes call, "Chia Pet Syndrome." Perhaps headgear is exactly what it is? Regardless, CPS is something I recently wrote about on my blog, http://prettygirlshooter.blogspot.com. (Sorry for the shameless plug.)

Like RG, I also think the edge-of-the-pool concrete should have been cropped-out or, short of that, leveled. When I first looked at the concrete's white, negative space, I thought perhaps it was to be used for text or graphics but, assuming what you posted is the final artwork, it seems its not. The bits of white drape, peaking out from both sides of one model's head and the other model's gown I also find distracting.

I'm also kind of surprised the graphic designer didn't make better use of all the excess space in the image for graphics and text. The catalogue's name seems small and doesn't stand out as well as it could, considering you provided framing that would allow for more prominent text. BTW, is that a scan from a tear or a lo-res image? There seems to be a lack of detail, especially noticeable in the models' eyes.

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jimmy,

You are right, any image posted on any forum is open for critique, this is pretty universal across for all photography forums on the internet. Often I've been accused of "sugar coating" critiques. I disagree as my attitude toward a critique is simple, I'll give you the same message whether you are working pro or an amatuer, but as an amatuer I'll be "nicer" in my delivery because the last thing I want to do is discourage photography. If you are a published pro, when I'm familiar with your work, I will be more critical in my tone, but mean no disrespect.

I've learned this over my 27 years of photography working with editors and photo editors and my own experience as an editor, plus I've also learned no photograph is immune at any time in anyone's career from constructive critiques or criticism.

As a note, one other thing that bothers me with this image besides your correctness in a graphic artist's ineffectiveness to not utilize negative space is that diagonal line that starts from the model's right shoulder, on the left side of the image, diagonally down to the bluish pillow on the right--notice how that line also cuts through the (left, white dress) model's eyes? That line, in what appears to be glass, cuts the image in half diagonally. This image doesn't cut the mustard for me for a cover, not even for a catalog, especially the lack of detail in the higlights of the dress where it meets the concrete.

No disprect to Rick, he's a great photographer and I've seen much better work from him, this should have been caught by the art creative (perhaps AD) as usually with catalogs, unlike magazines, there is no real editor, only designers and copy editors and an art director. Just my thoughts, wishing you the best, rg sends!

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I agree with the above, it's a neat pic but my eyes were struggling to tell whether the stuff on the head was part of the bg or not.
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