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Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 02:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am currently planning for a shoot I have already mentioned (my first shoot), and I thought that Microsoft Project might be a good way to do it. It seems like it is going well so far, but I thought I would ask how you more experienced guys do it, not only for my benefit, but for others of us that are less experienced :-)

How do you plan for your shoots?

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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 03:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, I think that Microsoft Project is a little overkill for planning a photo shoot. I suppose, though, if you were planning on 10 models, 4 assistants, 2 makeup artists, etc, that it could help.

My normal method, is to jot down a equipment list and make sure to confirm the model(s) 24 hours before the shoot. I also try to have a list of shots that I want to get during the shoot and often I prepare sketches or bookmark books, etc., with examples of the images I'll be working on. Since many models are quite creative, I often send them my sketches, or scans of ideas, so that they can bring the right outfits or props that they might have.

But I never try to plan things too tightly, because there are many variables and I may want to shoot something totally different after getting started.

I would say, don't over plan. Just be sure you have the basics taken care of and then enjoy the experience.

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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 04:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Typically I do some binge drinking the night before, wake up late, suck down a pot of coffee, grab my bags, and repent on the way to the shoot. Once there I decide what to do while the models take an inifinite amount of time fixing hair that will never look any different.
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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 05:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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confirm the model(s) 24 hours before the shoot.
You are much more trusting. If I don't hear from the models the day of the shoot, I assume they are not coming, and I have pretty much always been right.
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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 11:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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When I learned to produce videos and films I did a ton of prep work, still do actually. In fact I'd say have my job if not more is spent in pre-production. I make binders to keep everything organized undertabs, I utilize a ton of forms (some computerized, some not) ranging from storyboards, to continuity sheet, to call sheets, shooting scripts, shot lists, contact sheets, budgeting, and on and on.

When I first started doing shoots I didn't do anything, I mean it was just a photoshoot right? I learned quickly that that didn't work for me. I mean if it's just me and a model and I'm running down to the beach to take a few shots, yea, I don't do anything. But if it's an actual production... Then yes, I plan..

What do I do? Well first I secure the location or build a set. If securing the location, I scout locations take pictures and take notes, find out who owns it and get a location release if necessary. If building a set I first design it on paper and list everything I think I will need to do that. I then draw out one or two lighting diagrams to give me an idea of where I want to start. I also use this to write down actual lighting conditions on set. I sometimes use video so I keep a video production shot list of things I want to get (for example I'm building a set in my home studio today for a shoot on monday - I am going to experiment with taping the construction using time lapse - stuff like that).

I then create a few storyboards. I'm no artist and often use stick figures or other poorly drawn examples, but they are ok enough for me to know what I want and to communicate it to others. I also have a shot list for photos. This is short, it's tied to the story boards (or can just be the storyboards) and is not a list of every shot I will do but will just serve as a reminder that there were say four to six shots I wanted to get.

If the shoot will take place over mulitple days, I use a continuity log so that everything matches up in post.

It sounds like I do a lot but really I don't. It's just my way of keeping organized. I usually bring in a makeup artist and an assistant, but I'm usually acting as photographer, propmaster, gaffer, locations cooridinator, craft services, stylist and sometimes videographer. It's hard for me to keep it all straight in my head.

Also, for me this level of planning actually enables me to be free to experiment and try new things, because I know exactly what needs to be done and I'm not worried about what I'm forgetting. I helps me not to feel rushed and I can do what I need to .

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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
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If the shoot will take place over mulitple days, I use a continuity log so that everything matches up in post.
I sometimes put a security guard on the set.

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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
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Just having recently switched from Travel/Landscape photography, I too have found that organization is a big step toward a successful shoot. I decided to try PhotoByte, but I am having second thoughts...Perhaps MS Project would be a better route. PhotoByte is amazing however, it's just a little overwhelming at first. If it's not in the program, you probably don't need it! Anybody who wishes to try it, let me know, and I'll give you the link. It's shareware, free to download, but you are asked to donate $100 for keeping it.

I like to go to the site of the shoot a day or two in advance, just to get familiar, and if I can swing it, at the time of day that the shoot is planned for. I have severe weight/room limitations, so I shoot Natural Light whenever practical. I also get in my mind's eye the following: 1. What are my (or the model's) objectives? 2. Based on the model's conformation, how can I play the site/model off each other to create a well-balanced work? 3. Based on the lighting conditions, what poses will work for this particular model? 4. Are there any special weather conditions I might want to keep an eye on that could benefit or adversely affect the shoot?

It may or may not be quite right, so far my research has not led me to any conclusions, but depending on how the interview goes, I too might be inclined to contact said model and make sure they are going to arrive. I really don't see how it would be bad...even the dentist or doctor these days calls or sends a postcard to gently 'remind' you of your appointment.
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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 01:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I sometimes put a security guard on the set.

See now THAT is why I come here.

Now I now what I've been doing wrong. Gots to git me one them guards!
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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 10:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I like to meet with my models a week or two before the shoot. Most of my models are people I find online who I think would make good subjects. I think meeting beforehand helps me weed out flakes and undesirables.

At the meeting I talk about any idea's or projects that I think they would look good in, and also anything new or different that I've been wanting to try. I ask about tattoo's, piercings, area's of their bodies they would like to show off, area's they don't think look the best, how much post production they want me to do, what idea's they have for lighting/location or sets, what kind of clothes they have, and when and where they want to shoot.

I write all this down in my notebook or laptop. Then, usually 2 or 3 days before our shoot, I'll pull out my notes and make a basic outline of what we're going to do. I'll usually starty by choosing my favorite 3-4 outfits, then brainstorm different poses and lighting.

The day of the shoot sometimes I keep it out and refer back to it, sometimes the brainstorming was enough and I remember the main points.
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Re: Planning for a shoot: how do you do it?
Old 09-23-2006, 10:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So far, I think I have about 25 models to shoot (this is that pro bono cheerleading squad shoot I have told you about), so MS Project will come in handy. I think I might have to split it into two days.

I really like the idea about keeping things organised with tabs in folders. I will print a "cheat sheet" of poses (both photos and text descriptions) on a pose sheet so I don't have to create poses on the spot and go "Ummm, now do this, I think... No wait, do this instead" when getting the models set up.

I have also adopted the idea of scouting the location out beforehand... at least this way, I can draw a diagram of the area, note any background issues (no poles/trees protruding from models heads, etc), and note where the sun is in relation to different areas of the location at different times of the day.

All I need to do now is find the location, book all the people involved, and finish planning :-)

Thanks guys!

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