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Where I can go from here?
Old 08-19-2006, 10:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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After wandering around the Glamour 1 for a couple of years, I finally post the following two photos from one roll of photos I took last week. They are not great and I need to take care of the details, such as dusting off all sand from her body, to reach the next level. BTW, The person who was in charge of a reflector could fulfill her duty in the second half of the photo session. As a result, the contrast of the Rembrandt lighting pattern on the second photo is too strong. I would like to learn that where I can go from these photos. If you are a model in Vancouver, B.C. area, you can contact me to see how far I can go from those two photos.<br/>
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Re: Where I can go from here?
Old 08-20-2006, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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After more than 150 views, no one can say something about it?
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Re: Where I can go from here?
Old 08-20-2006, 09:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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After wandering around the Glamour 1 for a couple of years, I finally post the following two photos from one roll of photos I took last week. They are not great and I need to take care of the details, such as dusting off all sand from her body, to reach the next level. BTW, The person who was in charge of a reflector could fulfill her duty in the second half of the photo session. As a result, the contrast of the Rembrandt lighting pattern on the second photo is too strong. I would like to learn that where I can go from these photos. If you are a model in Vancouver, B.C. area, you can contact me to see how far I can go from those two photos.
Ya gotta remember, the vast majority of people who click into G1 are looky-lou's who are here only to look at pictures of girls, so merely looking at the number of folks who've peeked at your pix doesn't necessarily mean that it's anyone who has anything worthwhile to say.

I like your second image better than the first, for several reasons. First, it appears to be a bit more "set up" and less of a snapshot than the first. Her expression is much cuter in the second - the first pose is pretty overdone so unless there's something very catchy, it's hard to gather too much excitement about the hand-behind-the-head and lean on the arm pose.

I'd crop the second image a lot tighter... and would probably have turned her more away from the sun and used the reflector to fill in the shadows.. cross-lighting like you've got now is hard to do unless you're looking for that harsh light, which most of the time you wouldn't be when making images of a pretty girl. Or, at least, not one you wanted to photograph again!

Yeah, the mud on her leg is a bit distracting, so having some water in a bottle to spritz things off is a good idea, as is a brush to touch up her hair (looks like you had a bit of a breeze out there).

As to where you go from here... well, since I'm not sure where you are, now, it's hard to give any salient advice. But, generally, practice, practice, practice... the more you shoot, the better you should get. Practice being the toughest editor you can be - accept nothing but perfection and for gosh sakes, have a Tazer ready when the reflector operator gets distracted!!!!

I don't have any beach images to share, but here's one of a young lass that will maybe do in a pinch!

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Old 08-20-2006, 10:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dear Rainbow,

I really don't know where to begin, but ya gotta start somewhere, right?

Look at the picture, I mean really look at it. And next time try to do this before you take the picture. The poor girl looks like she is sitting in, well I really don't want to say what, but I think you get the idea. Right behind her, not three feet away, is clean, clear beach. Move the girl, this is your responsibility, you have to think before you push the button. Will she get wet? Probably, but the water will clean the sand of the foot prints she will make going over there. Besides, she is in a swimsuit, getting wet is part of the deal.


You are worried about techical stuff, and that's important, but first you must learn to see your picture. The tech stuff can be taught, but first you have to find your eye or all you will eventually have is perfectly exposed, beautifully lit, really crappy snapshots.

Hey, you asked. Twice.

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Re: Where I can go from here?
Old 08-23-2006, 01:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ya gotta remember, the vast majority of people who click into G1 are looky-lou's who are here only to look at pictures of girls, so merely looking at the number of folks who've peeked at your pix doesn't necessarily mean that it's anyone who has anything worthwhile to say.
That is quite interesting if it indeed is the case. I donít know it is just me or not that the majority of the photos posted in this forum are neither graphically attractive nor sexually arousing. There are some very good photographical works, however, less than 5 percent of them perhaps.
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... and would probably have turned her more away from the sun and used the reflector to fill in the shadows.. cross-lighting like you've got now is hard to do unless you're looking for that harsh light, which most of the time you wouldn't be when making images of a pretty girl. Or, at least, not one you wanted to photograph again!
I personally prefer the head position (Rembrandt pattern) over turning her head further to her right. The harsh lighting in the photo is caused by the single direction light from the Sun. There are a few methods to make the light softer. One is to use a reflector, as I had mentioned, to introduce a weaker light from another direction. The second method is to use a flash fill-in light. The third method is to use a scrim. I prefer the first method. The third method is somehow difficult to apply. A scrim needs to be quite big for the case. It definitely would sail in the location due to the windy condition. I should use the second method to reduce the harshness when the first method were not an option.

We will have another beach photo session in coming weeks. It will be for two girls this time, she and her friend. Both are model-want-to-be.
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I don't have any beach images to share, but here's one of a young lass that will maybe do in a pinch!
The photo would be better if you let her put her right hand on her waist instead of dangling on the side.

I will response Fish's comment later.

And thank both for sharing your opinions.
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