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Mamiya is closing up shop
Old 04-26-2006, 05:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just read that Mamiya is selling it's camera business for less than $1 million to a digital imaging company with only two employees. It looks like current employees will migrate to the new company in order to handle service and support of current products, but that R&D is essentially kaput.

You can read the details here: http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1145628753.html

I'm guessing this means you'll never see the 22MP ZD in this country.


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Old 04-26-2006, 07:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yikes !! Less than a million ?
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Son of a b*tch. Another victim of the digital age. And I was looking into getting an RB67, too. Well, I'm still gonna get one (eventually), guess I just can't look forward to anything new for it, just like Contax...

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Re: Mamiya is closing up shop
Old 04-27-2006, 02:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OMG! This is unbelievable! :O
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Of all the cameras I have ever owned my favorite was the Bronica ETRs. A close second was my RB67 which I purchased used (it was about 5 years old at that time I think) and I am still using 12 years later. Those cameras pretty well maintained their value. I don't think I can say quite the same of my D30 and 20D.
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Old 04-27-2006, 10:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I love my RB, but I rarely use it any more. Maybe I should pull it out more often.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just read that Mamiya is selling it's camera business for less than $1 million to a digital imaging company with only two employees. It looks like current employees will migrate to the new company in order to handle service and support of current products, but that R&D is essentially kaput.

You can read the details here: http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1145628753.html

I'm guessing this means you'll never see the 22MP ZD in this country.


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It's sad for me as I grew up on Mamiya and watching them move into digital. They missed the boat and anyone in this business that has died, missed the boat too.

My guess is it's not the end of Mamiya. It's just the end of Mamiya as we knew them. BTW, the masses don't need a 22 mega anything. Spending all that money to get there thinking bigger is better seems like it cost them.

Just a hunch but since Mamiya did the dirty work and this new company is known for business, my guess would be look out and continue to watch. I would think and it sounds like the low dollar sale here is because of debt sinking Mamiya. Insiders might make my hunch wrong but I would think anyone buying out something is going to do something to mass market or at least try too. So my first reaction is hang on. The name might change but if you can get a medium format digital to market for just above going slr rates you might be on to something. Of course I may not know what I am talking about either.

Anyway, I said this before but watch a huge push in about a year to have the camera companies start pushing the latest and greatest lenses. It's going to be a huge war in my opinion. The digital SLR is here and it's what many of us have been waiting for. The problem is, how big of file do we actually need? The digital SLR's gave us and continue to give us all we need and Mamiya missed it and didn't think.

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Old 04-27-2006, 01:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My guess is it's not the end of Mamiya. It's just the end of Mamiya as we knew them. BTW, the masses don't need a 22 mega anything. Spending all that money to get there thinking bigger is better seems like it cost them.
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you're right in practical terms. but it's not always about practicality. sometimes it's about image. (no, not images, but image as in the image of the photographer--as a photographer--as percieved by others, mainly clients.)

when i used to do a lot of editing (video) it was all about guys who cut with an AVID vs. guys who didn't. AVID was considered, in the eyes of clients, as the be-all/end-all of non-linear editing systems. if you interviewed for a gig, one of the first questions was, "do you own an AVID?" (this was not too long ago and when an AVID Media Composer digital non-linear editing system cost about $85 thousand dollars... i co-owned two such systems.)

i think photography is sometimes similar in that there are clients who judge you--to some extent--by your gear. if i'm wielding a medium-format digital, there are clients who will be more impressed with that than my work.
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Re: Mamiya is closing up shop
Old 04-27-2006, 01:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well that's true but look at vhs vs beta

anyway, not argueing your point, well received, however we are talking about a little different situation here. You pointed out a post production tool. Did they ask what cameras you were shooting the stuff with? No, they probably asked do you shoot Beta? Put a bazooka lens on a slr and you got your image you are talking about.

We got to a certain point that at the time Mamiya was on to something, technology got faster and cheaper and yet continued to give us quality files to work with and Mamiya appears got caught up in the middle. Portrait shooters could and still does get by with an slr, photoshop and interpolition programs. You can't justify 12,000 when an S1 can still be used to produce a 40x60 flawless print with interpolotion and buy one for 250 dollars.

Just yappin with ya......

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Old 04-27-2006, 01:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Dman and Wade -- I tried the RB for the first time not too long ago, and fell in love with it (I think it was the revolving back ). It was really fun to shoot, and my first time seeing a 6x7 chrome, which was pretty sweet, too. Who knows, maybe JT's right and Mamiya's equipment isn't completely gone for good...

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