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Is there any hope without PS?
Old 03-28-2006, 01:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...I am a hack. I'm one step up from a GWC at this point, but am actively trying to correct that.

My question, is there hope for any sort of commercial success (albeit modest) at this point without Photoshop? I have used PS Elements, and have taken PS classes, but I detest the editing process. For a while I justified it by saying that the intensive PS editing ruined the natural feel of the image and wasn't "pure" photography. The more that I learn, however (and after surgical removal from my high horse) the more I am coming to the belief that it is simply a part of the business that can no longer be avoided.

At this point, is there any way to make a living in the photographic arts without PS? I suspect that I am limited to the more "journalistic" pursuits, but would like the opinions of those who are smarter than I. That's about 103% of the population of G1, so I am curious to hear what you have to say.
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Re: Is there any hope without PS?
Old 03-28-2006, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer a little bit of USM and other minor tweaks in Photoshop as opposed to sitting in a film darkoom.

Aside from that, if you "get it right" in the camera, there really shouldn't be much you need to do in Photoshop other than a bit of USM and/or levels and/or saturation tweaks.

Also, you might want to check out Adobe's new "Lightbox" software (no Intel/Windows beta yet ) as it might shorten your time in post.
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Re: Is there any hope without PS?
Old 03-28-2006, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ansel Adams spent countless hours in the darkroom perfecting his images. His darkroom techniques didn't make great images, they only enhanced them. Adams understood light and how his equipment captured it. When he captured an image he knew he could make it better later.
JT Smith is his workshops talks about "seeing the light." Whether natural light or fabricated, it is how we capture the light that creates an image attracting attention. Understanding light and how the equipment will capture it is the key. Not to slight composition, etc.
Photoshop is just a tool, on a computer instead of the darkroom, for making a good image better.
Making a living at photographic arts is more about marketing and running a business than the images themselves. I will probably take some hits for that statement. My point is, to be a successful, as in commercial money making photgrapher, you need to sell yourself and your images. Marketing, marketing, business sense, marketing, photography, marketing...
Unfortunately, it is likely you will need to do more of the business stuff than the art itself.
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Making a living at photographic arts is more about marketing and running a business than the images themselves. I will probably take some hits for that statement. My point is, to be a successful, as in commercial money making photgrapher, you need to sell yourself and your images. Marketing, marketing, business sense, marketing, photography, marketing...
as with most things in life, the 80/20 rule applies: it's 80% business and marketing and 20% art.
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Re: Is there any hope without PS?
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Back "in the day", many great photographers turned their negatives over to great printers. Cole Weston's printing skill is responsible for many of the Edward Weston images we see today. Sending images out for re-touching is not unheard of. The relationship between photographer and printer is a time honored one.

I have heard many people resisting digital because of the required computer skills and time to get prints, yet these same people take their rolls of film from the wedding to a lab for processing and printing.

Turning your digital images over to a skilled PS artist for tweaking, cropping, etc., could easily be considered part of doing business, and fits the pattern of "how business was done" for years.
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