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Old 01-29-2006, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Re: Jen, black and white
Old 01-29-2006, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pretty girl and an attractive image, Mike. The soft 'glow' is especially appropriate with this young'un, I think.
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Re: Jen, black and white
Old 01-29-2006, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice job Mike. When your done with her, send her my way.

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Old 01-29-2006, 10:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You and I have not met, and now that I am moving we will probably not meet. While you may have seen your comment as off the cuff and no harm, I personally did not like it. I am blessed when any model wants to work with me and many have. When they do they inevitably become friends, so comments like 'when your(re) done send her my way' are to me inapproprtae and if the model was to ask me if she should work with you I'd have to say look at his comment. Normally what I do is say look at their portfolio and decide if they can help you. Then if they are interested I say I'll do a check and I will research the photographer or models they have worked with.

Sure I could have PM'd this reply but quite frankly I am trying to help people who are starting out figure what works, and what they should not do. In my mind, if you want to earn the respect of models you don't treat them as meat or somebody's x'girlfriend, but hey I'm older than dirt and from a different era.


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Old 01-29-2006, 11:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Funny you should get so offended. It was off the cuff and no harm. In fact it was a compliment to the model by merely indicating that I would be interested in working with her. As it turns out, I have worked with a couple of models that you have shot first. They each had nothing but nice things to say about you. They also had nothing but nice things to say about me as well. In fact, every model I have worked with has gone out of their way to thank me for being so professional and fun during the shoot.

So the fact that you took a compliment that I gave you and the model and tried to turn it in to a negative about me is complete BS. By doing so in a public forum indicates that you are trying to discredit me in some sort of way. Well get over it Mike. My work speaks for itself. And the relationship I have with the models I have worked with is second to none.

Are you intimidated by me? What gives?
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Old 01-29-2006, 11:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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PS - What I forgot to say was...I'm sorry if I offended either you or the model. It's was nice work on both of your parts.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Regardless of how it was "meant" I think Mike has a point. I'm not convinced he was personally attacking you. I think it was more of an attack on any kind of 'flippant' remark. Is it any coincidence that you turned his "supposed" offense into a personal attack.

Calm down. I think Mike's point was that when dealing with (coworkers) models RESPECT should be key. Sometimes we get a little to 'off-the-cuff' in public forums where we are all 'family' but that doesn't mean RESPECT should fly out the window.

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Old 01-30-2006, 01:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I didn't throw respect out the window. If mike mis understood, then I already appologized. But lets be very clear here....I was paying them both a compliment regardless of how Mike took it. Enough Said!!! It's over and done with.
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Re: Jen, black and white
Old 01-30-2006, 01:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow, this is beautiful!
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