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Re: Smile and show them Boobies!!
Old 01-03-2006, 12:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I love how you title your posts Don! It grabs my attetion right away. If you only worked for a major network, you could name a new reality show after this thread, I'd watch it, as long as it delivered. Oh, my sick mind comes up with too many ideas that would not be fitting here on when a model should smile or not.

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Re: simple
Old 01-03-2006, 01:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Those photos work. You wouldn't smile in the last two. If you had the same expression as in the last two in the first two, you would look... not really nice.

There's a time to smile and not to smile. The trick is learning when. I think you're gorgeous and when you're making a photo that looks like you're having fun, then you should smile and smile big. When you're selling a product make it look like you're enjoying the product. When it's art or something else, then throw an appropriate look.

Don't limit yourself.
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You two guys... get a roooom!
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Glenn, you and Don have the best love/hate relationship on GG!

This is my alternative viewpoint, that's me, Mr. skewwed view...

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<font color="blue">...I look at it and say why is a suburban housewife sitting on top of a table/stand/whatever with chains locked onto a collar while she is wearing some lingerie and looking skyward with an interesting expression. Thats what the image says to me.</font>

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It's a shot of a suburban wife (I'm pretty sure DeAnn has a day job though) but that's not what the story is. She's kneeling (rather than sitting) on a purpose built stage of some sort (threaded rod, eyebolts). She's chained in the cinematic style of a lion or some dangerous creature on display.... She's a chained woman... a fairly common theme; you even see it in mainstream fashion... Kneeling and wearing a collar are dead giveaways that the theme is about dominance and submission.

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<font color="blue">You say you don't get it. Neither do I. Why is she chained?</font>

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She's chained because she's a captive, the lingerie implies the motivation is sexual... not for real, but for fun... people do that... No humiliation, no pain, just captivity... submission to the viewer. Bondage is THE most common fetish or form of kinky sex in the developed world.

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<font color="blue">What part of her daily routine would make her be chained.</font>

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Nothing routine about it. This clearly something other than a lifestyle image... which by the way, I agree is one of DeAnn's strengths.

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<font color="blue">Your wife is pretty, I have seen many very nice images of her, but this one doesn't say anything to be. As one of my all time favorite models mentioned in this thread, "its all in the eye of the beholder."</font>

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Truer words were never spoken.

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<font color="blue">But I still loveya!</font>

[/ QUOTE ]Would you two just stop it already!


I think they were going for an expression of duress.
Stress, fear, anger... those are tough emotions to act out and capture in a still image because they are so visceral that people easily recognize whether they're genuine or not.
For my money, I'd like to see how well they develop the theme. It's balls'y. I admire people who will take a risk.

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Re: Smile and show them Boobies!!
Old 01-03-2006, 02:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Don, Don, Don, my good man, it's very simple. What are you selling? That's the question. Answer that and you will know know when to smile and not to smile.

Oh, and not just anyone is able to sell anything either. Just because Crystal can really make you wanna hop in the tub and play with her rubber ducky



Doesn't mean that everyone can do that.

Ginger for example is a little more adept at making you think she is steaming for you.



Sometimes, you find a girl who can pull off both, like Wendi,




And then there are times when the image is about sex, but not overtly, like with Jessica here.



This is never cut and dry, black and white, whatever metaphor you want to use. Find what works best for the subject you're shooting and your intended audience and work that angle.

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Re: simple
Old 01-03-2006, 02:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thank Mike [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I wasn't actually trying to limit myself as much as I wanted to determine if I was shooting out of my "look". It had been discussed that some faces were more appropriate for certain poses and types of look, so I was just checking to make sure I wasn't overstepping my boundaries.
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Re: theres nothing to get
Old 01-03-2006, 03:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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suburban housewife

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Thanks Glen!! Now I have a few more concepts for images, how do these sound?

"Stepford Wife"
"Get your Beeotch A$$ back in the kitchen and fix me some pie"
"Stifle it Ding Bat"
or my favorite: "Sorry honey that bathroom you spent all day scrubbin dont smell so good now!"

Sweet!!!

Thanks Glen!!

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Re: theres nothing to get
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sounds great as long as she smiles [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: theres nothing to get
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Word!!!


 
 
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uumm, with a couple of those I envision her with a rolling pin, taking a swing at you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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i dont want to hop in the tub with her
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I want to be her rubber ducky!
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