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What is \"Glamour\" to you?...confused photog.
Old 12-26-2005, 04:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This has probably been done before (if so I apologize) but I'm confused as to the usage of the word "Glamour" in the images posted here. Perhaps someone can make this clear?

I'm dealing with a model on the Other Model Place who is very particular what she will and won't do...in terms of her availability. While she won't do Nude or Lingerie she does indicate Glamour and Fashion. I haven't met with her yet but I will ask what she thinks of when the word "Glamour" is used in photography.

So far I've seen here that Glamour denotes:
1) Nudity - full, semi, veiled, implied
2) No Nudity
3) Lingerie/underwear...sometimes only the panties
4) What I would call Fashion or Fitness
5) It all depends on the lighting
6) Pin sharp images
7) Out of focus or fuzzy images
8) Attitude from the model
9) Repressed attitude.
10) Focused lighting
11) Deep contrast in lighting.
12) Etc.
13) Etc.
14) Etc.

I'm sure there is at least ONE element, perhaps something intangible that makes these images specific to Glamour and not to any other type of photography?

I'd like to get a handle on this so that when I meet a model I can say that Glamour is primarily 'this or that'.

Comments or leads to other discussions?

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: What is \"Glamour\" to you?...confused photog.
Old 12-26-2005, 05:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The one element that ties it all together is a beautiful model.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The word glamour today says NUDE .. When I mention it, that's what people expect.

True Glamour can be thumbtacked by checking out any of the glamour photo books of the actresses of the 50's etc. The true glamour shot is exactly that, glamourizing a woman/man with a shot that brings out additional beauty to the look.

Some glamour shooters today are shooting mostly nude. Sure, there can be a glamour nude, but all too often, they simply have [censored] lighting and a naked model. That's is not even approaching glamour.

Glamour glorifies beauty; nude or not.. But any glamour shots I have seen that I thought were amazing, were in black and white, and shot 50 years ago.

Click here for some sample glamour images of yesteryear
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What is a 'chopper'?



In the true historic sense of the word, a 'chopper' is a motorcycle that has been chopped so that only what you need to make a bike go, roll, and stop remain on it. Front brake? Ehh, who needs 'em. Electric starter? Nah, kick it!




Today's choppers resemble anything but what my dad would have known as a chopper.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've never been one for eaxact definitions and like most things in life the actual lines a blurred greatly.

Why not simply talk in terms of clothing? (for limits)

I never say Let's Shoot Glamour", but I do say, how about some Lingerie, Bikini, tank tops, etc...

I also tell Models I would like to "Shoot as SEXY as YOUR Limits allow for"

And since they are bring the clothing, once here, we spread out (them) on the bed and mix and match...

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Old 12-26-2005, 10:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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once here, we spread out on the bed and mix and match

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Sorry but its funnier if taken out of context!!!
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I not shooting "those" type models...LOL

BTW: here is the bed:

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Old 12-26-2005, 11:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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fashion sells the clothes and accessories. glamour sells the model.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The glamour photographer attempts to idealize the beauty and attractiveness of the subject and to show that person is irresistible. Glamour images often create a fantasy, showing the subject at her best, but always with an attempt to create an illusion of physical perfection. There are no 'rules' or strict definitions in glamour, all of your 14 points can apply to glamour. There can be tremendous overlap between what we describe as glamour, fashion, commercial and most any other style.

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Old 12-26-2005, 11:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I always look to the definition of titles when I want to figure out something. I have replied to the age old question of titles being tossed around for a few years now....Over the course of this, the definition of glamour has been the excuse to get a model naked or the implication of it, without saying I want to shoot you NUDE.

Glamour to me is A desirable attraction with beauty or charm (often with sex-appeal).

It really is that simple.

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