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Old 11-10-2005, 04:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I had an interesting phone call today....I lady wants to pay for a glamour portfolio package. She asked if I have any fancy backgrounds and props, because what I had on my website was dull. My response....I dont like alot of fancy backgrounds and props for a glamour portfolio because it detracts from the Model..I want the model to be all the attenion in the photo.

I know everyone has an opinion on this,mind sharing?????
would love to hear your thoughts.

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here are two of my favourite images....






Each works because of the background and Props ( or lack there of) ... The whole image has to work. Putting someone against a background isn't going to make them, or you look better.

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I agree with you, however I do think props are good if you are shooting someone with not alot of experience or maybe someone who is a little nervous.....It makes it alot easier, or it did for me when I first started.... But now that I hang out with JimmyD I am far from shy, nervouse nor do I need a prop, [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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nor do I need a prop,


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But Kori...dont you find Jimmy has a prop like quality???
You know..just sits in the corner collecting dust until someone wants to use him or sit on him???
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey Don,

I'll be blunt. I am perplexed with people. So this lady calls you and wants to do a package....if she thought your props and backgrounds were "dull" then why bother you in the first place. That cracks me up about people. Its like a client who hires you to do a job based on your style as they SEE your portfolio and then wants something totally different or doesnt let you shoot based on WHY they hired you in the first place. Personally...id tell her to go to glamour shots....lol. Just my .02. However...then again..you can shoot with props or "scenes" in the background to add color and interest....but..like you...I dont want it to be the focus as it takes away from the model ....I agree with you about that part of glamour....

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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nor do I need a prop,


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But Kori...dont you find Jimmy has a prop like quality???
You know..just sits in the corner collecting dust until someone wants to use him or sit on him???
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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LOL~actually that is so funny.....He is not a prop himself but he likes to use strange things....... Such as fruit. He will know what im talking about [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Regardless of what the client wants, if you want the business the client is right. I shoot models for magazines and every day ladies for their husbands/boyfriends/girlfriends/themselves. If you don't give her something to cling to when you're photographing her she'll feel weird and won't have fun. The photos are what she'll have with he for the rest of her life, but really Don, you're selling her an experience. If she as fun, the photos almost become secondary. They are tangible memories of her experience.

Why don't you offer to go to her home. She's most comfortable there. You can even use her bedroom. Guess what? You're out of pocket fro props is almost non-existent and you can charge extra for travel.

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Old 11-10-2005, 06:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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boudoir I can't help but wonder if that is not what she is looking for. To me "boudoir" means and intimate setting. while glamour may not. The best thing you can do is get together with her and ask what she had in mind.

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I tend to agree with you, that props can be distracting - although, as mentioned by Kori and Mike, props can make the model more comfortable - an important consideration.

However, if you're going to shoot for someone else, you want that other person to be satisfied. So, like Carl (cclesue) said, talk to her again. Ask her to bring some examples of what she wants - or prepare an extensive catalog of possibilities for her examination. As mentioned, working in her home would be good, IMO. Saves you some effort as well as puts her at ease.

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Old 11-10-2005, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I tend to think that the simpler the background, the better. But, it might be good to see what she thinks is a fancy background.

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