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I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
Old 09-08-2005, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So here is my introduction to Garage Glamour:
First, I want to clarify that I am new to this forum as of three days ago. I had been personally invited months ago, however, just never really had time to get involved with the forum until now. It is good to see personal friends and outstanding shooters such as Rolando, dK, JT Smith, Ed Selby, Rick Hughes, Corey Marcello, and and several others that I am sure are here.

I shoot Glamour, Fetish, Hotrod, Swimsuit, Alt. Porn, Nature, Fashion, Travel and Landscape photography. However, none of it is shot by the rules of its traditional definition. Those of you who know me personally already know that and accept me for who I am.

OK enough of that:
This posting is in response to a post (only my second) that was promptly deleted two days ago on Garage Glamour. Some of the thread responses that I received before the post was deleted made me think. Let me first clarify that my models and I are NOT nazis or have any association with the Nazi party.

The photo in question titled "While the Colonol was away at the Eastern Front" is one in a series of 5 images that I will be displaying in a multi-artist military pin-up/nose art gallery show in Detroit in the begining of the new year. Keeping with the gallery's suggested WWII theme, the other four prints are American, British, Japanese, and Russian. The post also contained a humours outtake with me and one of the models. With due respect to the Administrator of this forum...you can choose to view the image in question Here

The styling for the shoot came from two images (see below) from fellow friend and and much admired Pin-up artist Andrew Bawidamann. His original paintings sell for up to $6k and he too will be partipicating in the gallery showing. (Wait till he hears about this)



For those of you who read that post and asked tech questions about the photograph, I will email you with specific answers. And those of you who think me and my models, and my wardrobe stylist are nazis...let me give you other examples of actors who also may be nazis and secret members of the SS for what they are wearing...

"Boys From Brazil"
Gregory Peck (Josef Mengele)
James Mason

"Night of the Generals"
Peter O'Toole
Omar Sharif
Charles Gray
Donald Pleasance

"The Young Lions"
Marlon Brando
Montgomery Clift

"Hogan's Heroes"
Howard Caine (Major Hockstetter)

And here is another bit of information:
Loni Riefenstahl (1902-2003) She was Hitler's hand picked filmmaker and one who produced all of the epic propaganda works. Because of her passion and groundbreaking asthetics in filmmaking, the Motion Picture Association recognised her work when the Academy offered up its annual memorial to those entertainment industry figures who died during the year. Although it received some protest, most of the attention that year was directed towards condemning artistic freedom by passionately faithful filmmakers like Mel Gibson for "The Passion of the Christ."

Perhaps the "stand alone" image may be too strong for some. But does it warrent a deletion without a discussion? I can handle it...I have a thick skin.

Rolando had once told me that this is a "cool" photographer and artist forum.

Did I come out too strong? Perhaps.
Did I hurt anyone's feelings? a couple
Will I keep shooting anything that comes into my head? Of course
Will I visit this forum often with new work to get critiques and comments? Doubtful...If I push the boundries and get deleted, what's the point?
Will I still be friends with everyone on here? You betcha...I just don't know yet if this forum "Is my Bag..Baby," the jury is still out.

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Sorry about the sheep
Old 09-08-2005, 05:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There are people here who, IMO, seem to have a problem with the following:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances."

personally, i not only don't have a problem with these words, i'll die defending them. you're ****t is cool, man. sorry the sheep seem to be chasing you away. but just remember-- they're only sheep and all they can really do is eat grass, ****t, and say, B-A-A-A-A
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Re: I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
Old 09-08-2005, 05:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay, I am confused and I have been around this forum a long time. I like your image and it took a lot of creativity and styling to get there. What I will tell you is that I am surprised sometimes with what gets deleted and I am also surprised with what gets to stay sometime. With that said the forum relies upon their unpaid moderators to do the best they can and they have to respond if they get complaints and they too can see where an image may break one of the rules, but I admit I'm not sure which one you broke.



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Re: I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
Old 09-08-2005, 06:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good entrance - welcome to he board!
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Re: I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
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Personally I don't care what you do as long as you keep producing quality images and posting them here and don't try to recruit me into whatever you're into.

I went to your site and looked at all the images you had there and found none to be either politically or personally offensive. But then that's just me. Here at GG you can't throw a rock two feet without offending someone.

Keep up the good work and don't worry about being deleted.

Rick D.

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Re: I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
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Here at GG you can't throw a rock two feet without offending someone.



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but that only matters if you care... i.e., care that you can't throw a rock 2' without offending anyone... which, personally and for the most part, i could care less about doing and i'm pretty sure you ain't too far from that attitude yourself! (except, again like me, when it comes to people you already have some caring for.)
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butt when I first met you...
Old 09-08-2005, 06:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I thought you were just a hick, ok, crazy man! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I had no problem with your images but others did and we do have a variety of admins for that purpose, which often gives diversity in decisions. Regardless, keep posting, keep your great work coming, hope to see you again soon, thanks, rg sends!
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Re: I am NOT nor have I ever been associated with the NAZI party...
Old 09-08-2005, 06:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Tim, shut up and post man! Who give's a F?????????? I still love ya! See you in Vegas!
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So far all of the images you have posted are incredible and inspiring to me. Anything you have posted to this point is far less offensive to me than all of the religious zealots we have running around here.

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Old 09-08-2005, 07:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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JD's unrequested model rating for ginger_80: "Fine as frog's hair." You can add that to your resume if you like; it's not like i have a copyright on it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

p.s. Q. what's finer than frog's hair?





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