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Smoothed skin and sharp eyes?
Old 02-07-2007, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,

My normal work flow has me applying skin smoothing to my portrait and glamour shots as well as masking the eyes and lips so that they stay sharp. I've recently posted some images on a few other forums and gotten feedback that it looks unnatural with the sharp eyes. I've always made sure my images have sharp eyes. I was just wondering how you guys went about this.

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Re: Smoothed skin and sharp eyes?
Old 02-07-2007, 12:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I usually do something similar to my images. But without seeing examples of your images it is not possible to guess whether you are doing too much or not. It is quite easy to go too far with softening a face or sharpening the eyes. And often, the photographer won't realize they've went to far. Post an example that garnered and "unnatural" comment and let us see.

I try to use fairly subtle PS work in this area so that it is not obvious. See the several tutorials I've posted on eye sharpening and skin softening for some examples.

Here is a side by side example of an original shot and a very subtle softened shot (with eyes sharpened):

http://www.rfredricksmith.com/soft.jpg

And here are two links one to a sharp Holley shot and then the same shot soft.

http://www.rfredricksmith.com/holleysharp.jpg

http://www.rfredricksmith.com/holleysoft.jpg

I used a link because it is over sized for posting.

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Re: Smoothed skin and sharp eyes?
Old 02-07-2007, 12:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've looked at both of your eye sharpening tutorials, but not found the skin softening ones yet. I did not post an example as I have not found the image size limits for this forum yet (still looking around and getting a feel for things here). Here is a link to the image....

http://www.performanceimagery.com/mo...fs/jordan1.jpg

On that one, I've only done the skin softening, I left the eyes untouched in PS besides brighting up them up a little.
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Old 02-07-2007, 01:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've looked at both of your eye sharpening tutorials, but not found the skin softening ones yet. I did not post an example as I have not found the image size limits for this forum yet (still looking around and getting a feel for things here). Here is a link to the image....

http://www.performanceimagery.com/mo...fs/jordan1.jpg

On that one, I've only done the skin softening, I left the eyes untouched in PS besides brighting up them up a little.
It helps to see the original also. But to me it looks a little artificial. There's a certain "un-evenness" about the facial tones.

The easiest way to post your photo and be assured that the sizes will work correctly for a post, is to upload the photo at its current size to your G1 portfolio (try to keep the photo no more than 800x800 for the initial upload and less than 200k). Then use the images link above the post box or over to the right under the icons to paste a photo from your Portfolio into the post box. It will automatically be at an appropriate size.

On my two eye sharpening tutorials, I mention at the end of one of them that I use the same process for softening, but with a Gaussian blur layer.

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Re: Smoothed skin and sharp eyes?
Old 02-09-2007, 01:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I try to use fairly subtle PS work in this area so that it is not obvious. See the several tutorials I've posted on eye sharpening and skin softening for some examples.

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I'm new on this forum... can you tell me where those tutorials are? Thanks!
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Go to Forums and then choose Articles.

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/articles/

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Imagenomic do a portrait plug in for Photoshop...
http://www.imagenomic.com/pt.aspx
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Go to Forums and then choose Articles.

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/articles/

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I must be really stupid today because I can't the tutorials on skin and eyes anywhere. can you give me a link directly to it Thanks!!!!
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I must be really stupid today because I can't the tutorials on skin and eyes anywhere. can you give me a link directly to it Thanks!!!!
The two I was referring to are here:

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/digit...lack-mask.html

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/digit...s-history.html

These focus on eyes, but the same technique works for skin softning, but instead of a sharpness layer or step, just create gaussian blur layer or step.

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Old 02-14-2007, 01:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The two I was referring to are here:

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/digit...lack-mask.html

http://www.glamour1.com/forums/digit...s-history.html

These focus on eyes, but the same technique works for skin softning, but instead of a sharpness layer or step, just create gaussian blur layer or step.

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THANKS!!!! That is exactly what I was looking for!
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