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Old 07-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I tried something different with this photo, some times my monitors don't show me the facts...just the facts! I need to know how this looks to the real world.

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Old 07-26-2006, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi,
Beauiful model, potentially good setting, but photo is severely underexposed. A simple adjustment using levels, for instance, makes a world of difference.
The other problem is the shadow on the background, Is it from an on camera flash or spotlight?
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree underexposed on my monitor also.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Beauiful model, potentially good setting, but photo is severely underexposed. A simple adjustment using levels, for instance, makes a world of difference.
The other problem is the shadow on the background, Is it from an on camera flash or spotlight?
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Tom, the flash was off camera, I don't have a production crew to help with reflectors or fill cards so I just live with the shadows. I did move around to reduce the shadows as much as possible, but some times it becomes more work than it's worth.
This was taken at 10:44 pm. The only lights was from the little light behind her and from the apartments above her, and my flash. I liked the mood of the lighting but cutting down the flashes power caused the shutter speed to get out of sync.
The photo I posted was at +1 stop.



This one was at +2 stops, you may like it better, but it's not the mood or look I was trying to get.
I may go back and reshoot with out flash, use my 50mm/1.2 lens to see if I can get it that way.
The big problems I have been getting is pixelation and noise and some wierd color shifts. Printing from a tiff cleaned that up pretty much 100%, but you can't post a tiff. Since you didn't mention those kinds of problems can I assume I corrected that?
There were some pretty interesting shadows coming from the apartment above, but the flash totally removed them. I think if I bump up the sensetivity I may be able to get what I want from the other lens, but it may also introduce a lot of grain I don't want.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Please read the reply I just posted to Tom.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Tom, the flash was off camera, I don't have a production crew to help with reflectors or fill cards so I just live with the shadows. I did move around to reduce the shadows as much as possible, but some times it becomes more work than it's worth.
This was taken at 10:44 pm. The only lights was from the little light behind her and from the apartments above her, and my flash. I liked the mood of the lighting but cutting down the flashes power caused the shutter speed to get out of sync.
The photo I posted was at +1 stop.

This one was at +2 stops, you may like it better, but it's not the mood or look I was trying to get.
I may go back and reshoot with out flash, use my 50mm/1.2 lens to see if I can get it that way.
The big problems I have been getting is pixelation and noise and some wierd color shifts. Printing from a tiff cleaned that up pretty much 100%, but you can't post a tiff. Since you didn't mention those kinds of problems can I assume I corrected that?
There were some pretty interesting shadows coming from the apartment above, but the flash totally removed them. I think if I bump up the sensetivity I may be able to get what I want from the other lens, but it may also introduce a lot of grain I don't want.
I'm not sure I'm clear on what your are trying to say. For example what is the bit about the sync for the shot when you adjusted the flash? When you use flash to expose a scene the only time that the sync speed comes into play is in very bright ambient light. Generally, you set the fstop to give the proper exposure for the flash at its disntance from the model and strength. You just set the shutter speed to the sync speed or less. Now if you want to also include the ambient light, you lower the shutter speed for the exposure you want of the ambient light sources.

AS for the tif issue, if the photo looks right as a TIF, then when you convert it to JPG for the web it will look virtually the same (assuming you do it correctly).

AS for getting the effect you want, just put the camera on the a tripod, and set the iso to 100 and shoot the shot. You'll not have a problem with grain.

Maybe if you give more exact details on how you shot the shot, we can be more helpful.

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Old 07-31-2006, 05:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Frank,

Nice shot, very pretty model. I think RFS is correct on the tripod and ISO 100 to get that ambient light effect it sounds like you were looking for. I only get a red X for the 1st posted shot so I can't see the +1 stop shot. What camera/flash setup did you use?

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Old 08-23-2006, 08:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I know! slow to get back at ya on this.
The sync was about curtain sync, slow, rear, front etc. I just love the guys that make profound statements about exposure. I don't have a studio, it should be obvious in the pictures, I love shooting at night, you can get some great effects when you do that.
When I went slow rear curtain sync it will be a bit underexposed....about 1 1/2 stops. It's suposed to soften the shadows and bring out background detail. It worked when the girl was not too close to anything behind her. But it din't work with this photo.
I had planned to reshoot this this weekend , but a trip to 6 flags in Ga. over-rode that so maybe later on in the week. Tripod..no flash what ever it takes to ge that shot.
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I know you say that you don't have assistants to hold reflectors and that... but, I have found that I can prop a reflector (tape or clamp in windy conditions) to a tripod or light stand on the shadow side of the model so that it catches the light of the flash - thus filling the shadows and softening them. Try this next time and I think you may be surprized by how easy it is to do and I think you will also be happier with the results.

Hope you find this helpful.
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