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Old 02-15-2006, 01:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When working with raw files in photoshop cs is it better to adjust saturation in camera raw or after as an adjustment layer? Does it matter?

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Old 02-15-2006, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You have more control after directly on photoshop, but if you need some fast modification, you can also use the control on Camera raw.

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Thanks Paolo.

That's what I've been doing, just wanted some other people's opinions.
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I don't personally like camera raw and use my nikon capture software to alter the raw images when needed. Otherwise I just use PS to change things as neeeded.
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Thanks for the info Mark.
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I prefer Photoshop for everything except the initial white balance and exposure histogram adjustments.

When I open a RAW file the first thing I do is check and adjust white balance if necessary. After that I work the exposure and shadows sliders to stretch the histogram until I have the shadow and highlight detail I'm going for. Then I open in PS it in 16 bit mode and check color balance and exposure which usually require only small adjustments.
If I do need to make significant color balance adjustments, I do it with curves adjustment layers and that increases saturation so I cut the saturation back down with an H/S adjustment layer. Same thing if I want a less saturated look in the image.

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Thanks for the info Chip
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it depends on what RAW conversion program you are using.

i used to do all my contrast adjustments within PS.

after using Capture1 for a little over 2 years, i do an initial contrast adjustment in C1, then fine tune in PS. for me, this works better.

i'm sure this has been mentioned before, but don't use the contrast/brightness dialog in PS. use curves to do your contrast adjustments instead, on an adjustment layer.

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Thanks for the reply Sean. I have another question, when doing color noise reduction is there any negatives to setting that as high as it will go?
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yes, josh -- but again it depends on what conversion program you are using.

C1 for example, has it's own noise suppressor which is really quite good. it's separated into 3 sliders, Noise, Color Noise, and Banding suppression. of course as with any noise-reducing feature the sacrifice is loss of detail sharpness and an overall "flattening" of the image.

if you have CS2, i recently discovered a great new feature under filter>noise>Reduce Noise where PS has "automated" the technique where you blur the channel containing the most noise in the image, or even all 3 channels can be blurred separately. what's great is you have a slider that "brings back" details. it works quite well actually. i think this is one of the best improvements over CS.

with that said, if you have a real super noisy image, i would bring it into CS2, and on a separate duped layer run the Reduce Noise filter on it at full strength, then add a layer mask and bring back edge detail and what not. that way you get rid of the noise where you need it. if you don't have CS2, i would use Noise Ninja and do the same exact thing. run it on it's own duped layer and do a layer mask. that way if it's still too fake looking, you can adjust the opacity to bring some tooth back to the image.

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