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Old 02-08-2006, 04:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Say I have an original image which looks fine on my monitor, but prints too dark on my printer. To remedy this, should I go into View/Proof, select the appropriate printer/paper profile, check simulate paper, and then make further levels/curves, brightness/contrast, etc. adjustments to the image until it looks right again, save it as a new version of the original image, and then print it? That does make sense if I use several different printer/paper combinations. But, if I intend to use only my Epson R2400 printer and Premium Glossy paper at BestPhoto quality settings, shouldn't I start out my workflow by selecting those specific View/Proof options at the beginning of my workflow?

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Old 02-08-2006, 09:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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But, if I intend to use only my Epson R2400 printer and Premium Glossy paper at BestPhoto quality settings, shouldn't I start out my workflow by selecting those specific View/Proof options at the beginning of my workflow?

Thanks very much for your help,
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That may be your present intention, but someday your printer will break and it will be more expensive to fix it than just buy the R2600 (or whatever they come up with next). Or you might find some paper you like better, or you might decide to get a 16x20, or....

Over the long term, it would be best to keep the original in it's "right" color.
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I agree with Larry. You want your image to be corrected and balanced according the the optimal color and luminosity values. Then you want Photoshop and the print driver, working together via a printer profile (printer/paper/ink profile actually), to yeild a good print based on those values, so... it's in the translation.

I used to think I understood all about printer profiles and soft-proofing but now I'm not so sure, at least as far as being able to move an image file from one output device and media type to the next and still have them all look the same (within the device capabilities). I don't use soft-proofing much anymore.

My advice is to close your loop. One set of inks, one kind of paper, one printer. Then you need to get a profile for that device combination and a printing procedure that gives you the results you want. You can get custom profiles by sending test prints to a service bureau and having them create the profile for you. Once you have that worked out, you can get new profiles whenever you change one of the variables.

Once you have a good printer/paper/ink profile, set PS to handle the color translation, set your print driver to use ICM but apply no color changes. If you're printing in 'Best Photo' mode, I don't think ICM is active and the print driver is doing the translation instead of PS.

That's how I go about it anyway. There's more than one way, I'm sure.

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Speaking from a Graphic Design point of view, having 'simulate paper' checked is a must. We do however have different profiles for different printers and generic ones for each of the different paper types (there's just too many different types of paper leave alone manufacturers to have a profile for each). There will always be some loss in quality when printing and it would be wise to try and compensate for that loss as much as possible. Your best bet is to do a test and see if it works for you, I would however suggest that you do simulate paper to try and squeeze out as much info as you can for better prints. It is also better to do it from the start if your work is only destined for print, just don't do it on the original file.
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