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Old 02-09-2005, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I would like to save different aspects of the same shot in a single PSD file (e.g. full size, 8x10 crop, 5x7 crop) without having to create a separate version of the file. Do any of you do this? If so, how do you do it? Should I use mask layers as guides then just crop and print without saving or is there some other tool in PS that will allow me to save this information without saving several different versions of the file?

In case you couldn't tell, I'm as adept at PS as a pig is at flying.

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Re: PS Cropping Question
Old 02-09-2005, 01:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The 8x10 and 5x7 crops would have to be saved seperately.
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Old 02-09-2005, 01:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I like to save the crops separately so I can use the cropping tool, but I think you could use "saved selections" to do what you are asking.

Here's 5 x 7 for example...[*]Choose the rectangle marque tool [*]Select "Fixed Aspect Ratio" as the style [*]Set the width to 5 and the height to 7[*]Draw out your selection roughly[*]Right-click on the selection and choose "Transform Selection"[*]Now you can move the rough selection around and alter it's size to what you want.[*]Hit ENTER to finalize the selection transform[*]Save the selection ("Save Selection" from the Select menu). I like to give it a name of "5 x 7"

Do the same steps for any others you want. Just set the width and height to get to the right aspect (e.g. 8/10, 11/14, 4/6)

Now, when you are ready to print, you load the selection and do your crop[*] Load the selection you want ("Load Selection" from the Select menu).[*] Crop the image ("Crop" from the Image menu)[*] Resize the image to the size you want ("Image Size" from the Image menu).

It's not as easy as cropping with the crop tool and saving in different files, but it takes less disk space.

Someone else may know a slicker way to do this.

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Old 02-09-2005, 04:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks. I'll give it a try.

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Old 02-09-2005, 05:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That is exactly how I do it, although I don't do that thing with the "transform selection" or hitting ENTER. Here's what I do:

1) Click on the Rectangular Selection tool (upper left corner of toolbox.)
2) Select "Fixed Aspect Ratio" from the controller popup menu. Enter aspect ratio in boxes.
3) Make rough selection. I often will put a guide down if there's a particular cutoff point I want: selections will snap to guides if you have the appropriate preference set. Sometimes I will use two guides to define a starting corner.
4) Once selection is made, click inside and drag to get it just where I want it. Also you can use the arrow keys to move it one pixel at a time.
5) Once selection is where I want it, go to "Select" menu and hit "save selection." I usually just name the selections "crop 1," "crop 2," and so forth. This is more helpful than you might think because of the next step.
6) When I'm done making selections, I save the psd uncropped.
7) Then I load the first one, crop it, put in my (C) stamp, and do Save for Web. I do this with all the permutations, naming the JPG's appropriately, and ending each one with a number tag. The first crop of photo 4399_headshot would be 4399_headshot_1.jpg. The desaturated version would be 4399_headshow_bw_1.jpg. And so forth.
8) I then use the History palette to back up to before I did the crop, load the next selection, and repeat for each crop.
9) I use the Web Gallery automation command to make a gallery of all the JPG's. Then I browse through that when I'm looking for something. The gallery shows the filename, which tells me exactly which crop and which layers to use to recreate the image from the original psd.

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Re: PS Cropping Question
Old 02-09-2005, 06:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I had the "add to selection" setting turned on so I wasn't able to drag selections around when I tried this out. Thanks for pointing out the dragging.

I was still not able to alter the size of the selection without using the "transform" function, though. I end up needing that since I can't seem to make the initial selection the exact size I want.

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